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On Jun 19, 2024, Attila wrote
(in article<80g67jp7h5cjhsdram1qvkgbf48dprmd05@4ax.com>):

> On Wed, 19 Jun 2024 10:48:09 -0700, Robert<robert@no.way>
> in alt.atheism with message-id
> <0001HW.2C2351590004D1D930DA4A38F@news.eternal-september.org>
> wrote:
>
> > > >
> > > > He is going to destroy, burn up this earth, the skies, the universe about
> > > > it, all the things he created for man, and recreate a new one without the
> > > > taint of sin, no disease, no deterioration, etc.
> > >
> > > Non-responsive. I asked about things your god cannot do,
> > > such as making a rock he cannot lift.
> >
> > Ridiculous, you got a response, you are asking a qualified question
> > regarding
> > things physical, there is nothing that he can do in that regards that he
> > cannot undo, I told you or what will be done regarding all things physical.
> > Not spiritual since you cannot understand those things.
>
> I asked if your god could do anything. you responded with a
> list of what you say he is going to do. That wasn't my
> request.

Scripture defined what he did in the past and what he will do in the future.
Your mind cannot define or comprehend his abilities. You were already told 
that God cannot make a rock that he cannot lift.

He cannot rescue you from the Lake of Fire and Brimstone once you are there. 
After having been tossed in there for an eternity. He has provided a way that 
you can escape that end. Yet so far you have refused it.

> > > > >
> > > > > As I said there are many actual locations mentioned, so of
> > > > > course there would be archeological support. But there is
> > > > > no such support for many of the locations and events
> > > > > mentioned.
> > > >
> > > > How old is your information, for many things that were thought not true
> > > > have been shown to be true.
> > >
> > > That is a nice, vague, and generalized response. How about
> > > some specifics with links?
> >
> > How about you naming some. Sodom and Gomorra you know of as a couple of the
> > five cities that were to be destroyed, and the evidence of the destruction
> > remains unto this day.
>
> Physical evidence supports the existence of cities by that
> name during this time period.

I told you where to find it, I will not pay for you to go see them.
>
>
> > Sulpher brimstone abounds in those places and is
> > easily set on fire
>
> I don't know that but I will grant it's for this discussion.

Don’t be so benevolent, just a little effort and you can see it physically 
in videos. As well as in articled by professionals.
Establish the Fact or prove it wrong.

>
>
> > and the one small city that was spared to that Lot and his
> > daughters could escape
>
> Only one unverified source says this particular event
> happened.

You do not know that, and there are a few that have verified the remnants of 
the city.
>
>
> > there has been recently found, easily found
> > information is on the Net and on you tube. The city of David has been found,
>
> Including it's existence at the proper time or was it
> founded later?

Like D-uh? If I found the evidence of it yesterday and it was proven to be in 
an ancient timeframe as is the way of archeology does that make it all a lie?

>
>
> > evidence of Joseph of Egypt was found.
>
> Such as what specifically?

I went through all that recently with others in your group, His Egypitian 
name on regents of their artifacts. As well as embedded carved in stone 
stories of the Israelites in the desert.

Evidence abounds and much of it documented on the Net. Via various sources.
>
>
> > Murals of the wars against Israel have
> > been found as paintings on the walls of a building, as well as their final
> > attack against Jerusalem, which they failed, all yours for the findings as
> > an avid researcher and prover of all things that never existed.
>
> I am not a researcher of any kind and I have yet to see any
> specific references from you. Just generalities.

I gave you a lot of specifics in the past, in discussions like this, and I 
ended up telling you I was no longer going to respond, especially when you 
stated that you would not believe anything I said or pointed out, even with 
evidences. After your second such response I took you at your word and ceased 
posting anything of value to you in regards to the various evidences. And 
this too will cease.
>
>
> > >
> > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Giants have been proven by their skeletons
> > > > >
> > > > > Humanoid giants? Where? Define "giant".
> > > >
> > > > Remember Goliath? His Brothers? No humanoid, but Humans. 13 foot tall,
> > > > etc.
> > >
> > > Exactly where can these skeletons be found? Please be
> > > specific.
> > >
> > > I would like to see a valid 13 foot tall human skeleton.
> >
> > Then if you are as smart as you claim, you too can see with a simple search.
>
> It is your claim - you do the work.

No thank you, it is not a claim, it is a well established fact. A scientific 
fact if you wish.
All you proffered was another Lame prove it statement. A troll mark of those 
who accept nothing.

>
>
> > If you cared to see the reality of things then your curiosity would be
> > peaked
>
> I have no curiosity in this area. I could not care less
> about any of it. I simply challenge the unsupported claims
> made here by others.
>
> If they are your beliefs or opinions, fine. Say so. But if
> you are presenting them as being fact either support them or
> appear to be a liar.
>
> > if you choose to be ignorant then you will remain as you are.
>
> That's OK.
You cannot disprove what I have said. And you do not care, you say, either 
way. Fine,
I will accept that as your lever of understanding Therefore any question from 
you are insincere.

And you have shown ahead of time that you are unworthy of any kind of a 
scholarship.

I am not saying that you are not a fine person or anything of the kind but I 
would strongly recommend that you seek Jesus the Christ before your physical 
death. That is something that only you can do,Alt