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From: Bill Findlay <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.arch
Subject: Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer?
Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2024 19:01:59 +0100
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On 7 Oct 2024, David Brown wrote
(in article <ve0e4f$1m7i1$1@dont-email.me>):

> On 07/10/2024 08:29, Niklas Holsti wrote:
> > On 2024-10-07 1:08, Brett wrote:
> > > Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
> > > > On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 17:59:03 -0000 (UTC), Brett wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > A gas cannot emit the spectrum we see from the sun, liquid metallic
> > > > > hydrogen can.
> > > >
> > > > The spectrum of the Sun is primarily the continuous emissive one of a
> > > > "black body" at a surface temperature of 6500K or thereabouts.
> > > >
> > > > Superimposed on that are absorption lines corresponding to a range of
> > > > elements, representing cooler substances in the surrounding
> > > > "photosphere",
> > > > I think it´s called.
> > > >
> > > > Which of these lines do you think is characteristic of this mythical
> > > > "liquid metallic hydrogen" of yours?
> > > >
> > > > Fun fact: originally it was thought that those lines in the spectra
> > > > of the
> > > > Sun and other stars were characteristic of the entire makeup of the
> > > > bodies
> > > > concerned. In other words, they were full of elements much like those
> > > > that
> > > > make up the Earth and other planetary bodies.
> > > >
> > > > A young doctorate student named Cecilia Payne, after some careful study,
> > > > came to the remarkable conclusion that stars were mostly hydrogen and
> > > > helium, and these spectral lines were due, in effect, to relatively
> > > > small
> > > > amounts of contaminants in among that bulk of hydrogen and helium.
> > > >
> > > > > Gases do not show the pond ripples from impacts that we see from the
> > > > > sun
> > > > > surface.
> > > >
> > > > What "impacts on the sun surface"?
> > >
> > > Watch the first few minutes of the first video in the playlist to see a
> > > solar eruption and some of that mass crashing back down on the sun
> > > surface,
> > > causing pond ripples. The idea of a plasma gas sun dies right there.
> >
> >
> > Stratified fluid (non-plasma) atmospheres can support pond-like waves:
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity_wave#Atmosphere_dynamics_on_Earth.
>
> Note to Brett - gravity waves in a fluid are completely different from
> gravitational waves, such as those generated by black hole collisions
> and detected by LIGO. You probably have some other magic snake oil
> beliefs about those, but don't get them confused with gravity waves in a
> fluid.

Brett and his guru do seem to ignorant of the existence
and properties of gravity. How else to explain the guru's
"bottle of gas" nonsense?

-- 
Bill Findlay