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Path: ...!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Bill Findlay <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk> Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Is Intel exceptionally unsuccessful as an architecture designer? Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2024 19:01:59 +0100 Organization: none Lines: 65 Message-ID: <0001HW.2CB4599702419E4430E27538F@news.individual.net> References: <86jzf4829c.fsf@linuxsc.com> <vcpojl$2ads5$1@dont-email.me> <vct3av$2tic0$17@dont-email.me> <vctb0s$32gol$1@dont-email.me> <vctbo2$32cko$3@dont-email.me> <vcv711$3b4hf$1@dont-email.me> <vcvji5$3co45$7@dont-email.me> <20240925104320.00007791@yahoo.com> <vdaakm$1facd$4@dont-email.me> <vdacqq$1jf40$1@dont-email.me> <vdd6tv$23gqs$1@dont-email.me> <vdd8d6$23nsh$1@dont-email.me> <ee430ac27c829d5514d5652aa2c6fad6@www.novabbs.org> <vdevtm$2c7jg$1@dont-email.me> <vdg6fs$2ko7g$1@dont-email.me> <vdh5q8$2pnkp$2@dont-email.me> <40853b34aae592d6cd8a19f017e3f7eb@www.novabbs.org> <lm2vj6Frf3oU1@mid.individual.net> <vdi0t5$2u3af$1@dont-email.me> <vdkp1g$3ed1r$6@dont-email.me> <vdkt00$3in73$1@dont-email.me> <vdl4ok$3jhjh$6@dont-email.me> <vdlk9g$3kq50$4@dont-email.me> <vdmq7e$3re5q$2@dont-email.me> <vdobe8$5cna$1@dont-email.me> <vdpad7$agqd$1@dont-email.me> <vdso54$ukl1$7@dont-email.me> <vdv1p8$1cqsu$1@dont-email.me> <lmhddnF45acU1@mid.individual.net> <ve0e4f$1m7i1$1@dont-email.me> Reply-To: findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net x/fz8UL5eK/HiIqnfwLmFAAsVI+oGxUyvV/aC8cxDcdpWnyS/S X-Orig-Path: not-for-mail Cancel-Lock: sha1:qJPPSFXX9bPtUZHhx4eI68braw8= sha256:+f85SnB/uRts4eWsfFP/URF4wHsqYLaUqN4mHVm9bhM= User-Agent: Hogwasher/5.24 Bytes: 4449 On 7 Oct 2024, David Brown wrote (in article <ve0e4f$1m7i1$1@dont-email.me>): > On 07/10/2024 08:29, Niklas Holsti wrote: > > On 2024-10-07 1:08, Brett wrote: > > > Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: > > > > On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 17:59:03 -0000 (UTC), Brett wrote: > > > > > > > > > A gas cannot emit the spectrum we see from the sun, liquid metallic > > > > > hydrogen can. > > > > > > > > The spectrum of the Sun is primarily the continuous emissive one of a > > > > "black body" at a surface temperature of 6500K or thereabouts. > > > > > > > > Superimposed on that are absorption lines corresponding to a range of > > > > elements, representing cooler substances in the surrounding > > > > "photosphere", > > > > I think it´s called. > > > > > > > > Which of these lines do you think is characteristic of this mythical > > > > "liquid metallic hydrogen" of yours? > > > > > > > > Fun fact: originally it was thought that those lines in the spectra > > > > of the > > > > Sun and other stars were characteristic of the entire makeup of the > > > > bodies > > > > concerned. In other words, they were full of elements much like those > > > > that > > > > make up the Earth and other planetary bodies. > > > > > > > > A young doctorate student named Cecilia Payne, after some careful study, > > > > came to the remarkable conclusion that stars were mostly hydrogen and > > > > helium, and these spectral lines were due, in effect, to relatively > > > > small > > > > amounts of contaminants in among that bulk of hydrogen and helium. > > > > > > > > > Gases do not show the pond ripples from impacts that we see from the > > > > > sun > > > > > surface. > > > > > > > > What "impacts on the sun surface"? > > > > > > Watch the first few minutes of the first video in the playlist to see a > > > solar eruption and some of that mass crashing back down on the sun > > > surface, > > > causing pond ripples. The idea of a plasma gas sun dies right there. > > > > > > Stratified fluid (non-plasma) atmospheres can support pond-like waves: > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity_wave#Atmosphere_dynamics_on_Earth. > > Note to Brett - gravity waves in a fluid are completely different from > gravitational waves, such as those generated by black hole collisions > and detected by LIGO. You probably have some other magic snake oil > beliefs about those, but don't get them confused with gravity waves in a > fluid. Brett and his guru do seem to ignorant of the existence and properties of gravity. How else to explain the guru's "bottle of gas" nonsense? -- Bill Findlay