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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!news.nk.ca!rocksolid2!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: hertz778@gmail.com (rhertz) Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: Gravitational time dilation HOAX along the years Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2024 00:49:10 +0000 Organization: novaBBS Message-ID: <0089909a4c84f196746ec02b98b8d8a4@www.novabbs.com> References: <84deac76f160f1f681f5275e10d7e683@www.novabbs.com> <e47a7acd067fb390d71e6fc9b6a76061@www.novabbs.com> <snA8P.4$511.3@fx08.ams4> <d5b6c7336db1a2bbf3805d67372fc551@www.novabbs.com> <676340b2$1$29715$426a74cc@news.free.fr> <1d7c6197c62f09b78c4ce8f8ef769f18@www.novabbs.com> <676432f5$2$5190$426a74cc@news.free.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="3704451"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="OjDMvaaXMeeN/7kNOPQl+dWI+zbnIp3mGAHMVhZ2e/A"; User-Agent: Rocksolid Light X-Rslight-Site: $2y$10$wtZcd7zWAK3GVRewZrPAHOABkEyWTNyhKbJoI.q2uLnJd4M4fi2q6 X-Rslight-Posting-User: 26080b4f8b9f153eb24ebbc1b47c4c36ee247939 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Bytes: 4560 Lines: 93 On Thu, 19 Dec 2024 14:51:32 +0000, J. J. Lodder wrote: > rhertz <hertz778@gmail.com> wrote: <snip previous posts> >>>> Your comment is worthless, as you're ACCEPTING THAT EINSTEIN WAS RIGHT >>>> IN 1911. >> >> >> >>> Of course he was, in the Newtonian limit of GR. >> >> 1) In 1911 didn't know SHIT about 1915 Hilbert GR solution for field >> equations. > > Einstein had guessed the correct Newtonian limit > before having the complete final theory. You can't be so ignorant or fanatic!. By 1911, Einstein was TRYING TO UNDERSTAND MINKOWSKY, crying publicly about him not giving a shit about differential geometry when he was at the college, 12 years before. It was also the year when he wrote to Grossman: "Help me, Marcel, or I'll go crazy". He couldn't, in any way, anticipate Grossman's Entwurf (1.5 years ahead). Einstein was an ignorant about advanced mathematics, beyond Calculus 101. > Hilbert didn't solve a thing in 1915. Again, You can't be so ignorant or fanatic (OR A LIAR AND DECEIVER)! Hilbert solved the problem of the field equation IN THREE MONTHS, and GAVE A PUBLIC LECTURE about it on Nov. 18, 1915 (one week before Einstein's lecture to the PAC). And keep in mind THIS: Both the field equation form (1915) and the modified Schwarzschild solution (1917) ARE THE ONES USED TODAY. Learn something, asshole. > All he did was producing an unphysical monstruosity, > after which he tried to steal Einstein's achievenments. Another LIE, or a fairy tail that you developed in your head, so you can feel comfortable about your perception of the crook, plagiarist and deceiver. By Dec. 1915, and AFTER his Nov. 25 lecture to the PAC, the IMBECILE still didn't understand fully what he presented. He argued with Schwarzschild about the particular solution, and negated his contribution in the years to come. Hilbert TOOK PITY of the cretin (Hilbert: the TOP MATHEMATICIAN OF THE WORLD) and, patiently, explained to Einstein (from Dec. 1915 to March 1916) HOW TO UNDERSTAND THE SOLUTION. Einstein credited his help IN WRITINGS available on the Princeton site. Hilbert didn't care about GR and his solution, what he made public and credited Einstein for being the physicist behind GR. PUBLICLY. Hilbert didn't give a shit about the Schwarzschild's solution UNTIL 1917, when his collaborator Johannes Droste. The CURRENT FORMULA is the one that Hilbert developed but, as a gentleman he was, he published it as the SCHWARZSCHILD SOLUTION, not taking any credit for it (almost 1.5 years after Schwarzschild death). In contrast, the cretin Einstein put the poor Schwarzschild in oblivion, JEALOUS of his intelligence and knowledge (and resented for his help in 1915). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_relativity_priority_dispute > Ultimately unsuccesfully, the affair has been settled by now. > Hilbert played false with the date in preprint and the published date. > (he should have added a 'modified' date) > > Not even Ohanian supports Hilbert in this. > (despite always being out to put Einstein down) > Hilbert just didn't have it, get over it, Who the fuck is Ohanian, imbecile? This asshole? https://www.amazon.com/Gravitation-Spacetime-Hans-C-Ohanian/dp/1107012945 > Jan > > [snip more of the same garbage]