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From: hitlong@yahoo.com (gharnagel)
Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity
Subject: Re: A short proof of the inconsistency of The Shit
Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2024 02:30:43 +0000
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On Sun, 1 Sep 2024 13:00:22 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
>
> W dniu 01.09.2024 o 14:22, gharnagel pisze:
> >
> > On Sun, 1 Sep 2024 4:36:52 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> > >
> > > W dniu 31.08.2024 o 22:46, gharnagel pisze:
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, 31 Aug 2024 12:32:58 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > W dniu 31.08.2024 o 13:52, gharnagel pisze:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Wozzie's "thesis" is a concocted fantasy.  His claim
> > > > > > that relativity is inconsistent is based on ridiculous
> > > > > > assertions (1) that the "definition" of a day (84600
> > > > > > seconds) applies to the entire universe, (2) that
> > > > > > relativity is false because it predicts that an observer
> > > > > > moving at c/2 will measure a day on earth as 99766
> > > > > > seconds
> > > > >
> > > > > Harrie is impudently lying.
> > > >
> > > > So Wozniak has this serious mental problem because he
> > > > thinks that anyone who disagrees with him is lying:
> > >
> > > Nope. So, Harrie is impudently lying because
> > > I never claimed these things.
> >
> > Wozniak is in denial
>
> Nope.  Harrie is in lying.

Wozniak has this paranoia problem, accusing people of
lying to him.  It's not a lie if they truly believe what
they say.  Wozniak claims he "never claimed these things"
but what said strongly implied my thesis.  It is not
honest to claim he "never claimed these things" when his
assertions logically lead to (1).  As for (2), that is
EXACTLY what he said:

"an observer moving with c/2 wrt solar system is
measuring the length of solar day. What is the
result predicted by the Einsteinian physics?
One prediction is - 99766."

So Wozniak is denying his own words now.  I can't trust
anyone who is this dupicitous.

> > > > > Of course, youhaven't fabricate these experiments,
> > > > > but you have for sure fabricated the assertions
> > > > > that they are  kind of "evidence"
> > > >
> > > > Wozniak hasn't denied that he definitely smeared
> > > > hundreds of honest scientists claiming they lied
> > > > about their experimental results.
> > >
> > > That's how a fanatic madness works.
> >
> > Yes, Wozniak has hit the nail on the head: he demonstrates
> > a "fanatic madness"
>
> Oppositely, you and your fellow liars demonstrate
> fanatic madness by insisting that clocks of
> GPS are not real, ordinary Earth maps are denying
> basic [Euclidean] mathematics and so on.

Either Wozniak truly believes what he says, or he is
lying.  If the former, then he misunderstands what
"we" told him.  I can't take responsibility for what
others say, but I don't believe I ever said that "GPS
clocks are not real."  As for his other accusation,
I don't recognize what "Euclidean" mathematics is.

> > "His claim that relativity is inconsistent is
> > based on ridiculous assertions (1) that the
> > 'definition' of a day (84600 seconds) applies
> > to the entire universe,"
>
> As said before - I've never said such thing, poor
> Harrie is lying, as expected from him.

That's Wozniak's problem: because of his paranoia,
he EXPECTS people are lying to him.

> > So he prefers character assassination to honest
> > debate.
> >
> > "(2) that relativity is false because it predicts
> > that an observer moving at c/2 will measure a day
> > on earth as 99766 seconds"
>
> Neither.

"an observer moving with c/2 wrt solar system is
measuring the length of solar day. What is the
result predicted by the Einsteinian physics?
One prediction is - 99766."

So Wozniak is denying his own words now.  I can't have
a meaningful discussion with anyone who is this dupicitous.

> > https://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/SR/experiments.html
>
> Again, your impudent lies that these experiments
> are somehow supporting the self-denying mumble
> of your idiot guru - are completely irrelevant
> to this thread.
>
>
> > "Three things cannot hide for long: the Moon, the
> > Sun and the Truth.” -- Buddha
> >
> > “The truth is incontrovertible.  Malice may attack
> > it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there
> > it is.”
>
> Right, here it is: the clocks of GPS are real
> and the physics of your idiot guru was not
> even consistent.

Duplicitous Wozniak is lying, IMHO.  The other possibility
is that he is incompetent to evaluate truth from error.
A normal person when faced with proof that he is wrong,
will reevaluate his position.  He never does this, so I
can only conclude from all of his behavior is that he has
serious mental issues that need to be addressed.

“To hate being wrong is to change your opinion when you are
proven wrong; whereas pride, even when proven wrong, decides
to go on being wrong.” ― Criss Jami

I have changed my positions numerous times when presented
with information that contradicts what I believe.  It's
not healthy to remain intransigent over the years.

“Education isn’t something you can finish.” – Isaac Asimov

“Changelessness is decay.” – Isaac Asimov