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Path: ...!weretis.net!feeder9.news.weretis.net!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org> Newsgroups: comp.theory,sci.logic Subject: Re: Liar detector: Fred, Richard, Joes and Alan --- Richard is a Liar? Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2024 18:23:36 -0400 Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <024d687a8f7fb00a6ff0ba883ccae61ba70003db@i2pn2.org> References: <v644pn$29t4h$3@dont-email.me> <v67028$2t9el$1@dont-email.me> <v68b3f$2n56v$5@dont-email.me> <v68ocd$39dkv$5@dont-email.me> <v68pfo$2n56v$7@dont-email.me> <v68rnv$39tml$2@dont-email.me> <v68tvd$3ac9t$1@dont-email.me> <v68uj0$3ahel$1@dont-email.me> <v694k4$3bevk$1@dont-email.me> <v69502$3bh3f$1@dont-email.me> <v6b1k4$3odj5$1@dont-email.me> <v6bf7r$3qiio$2@dont-email.me> <v6bm5v$3rj8n$1@dont-email.me> <v6bmoe$3ri0l$2@dont-email.me> <v6bnt2$3rj8n$3@dont-email.me> <v6brfj$3skuk$2@dont-email.me> <v6c3vh$3ttem$1@dont-email.me> <v6c539$3u2mj$1@dont-email.me> <64b6a48b13e3b0739d79df538dca3e8d52c86f43@i2pn2.org> <v6cbe2$3v83p$1@dont-email.me> <bb01a6bddbf7ee29eee73cdcd7ddd4d0732218c1@i2pn2.org> <v6cboo$3v83p$2@dont-email.me> <83dab358cd413bbb48dd3791890d1b526b019e40@i2pn2.org> <v6cdk5$3viun$1@dont-email.me> <c320c5c5458ccce375c8dc694316c1c031332095@i2pn2.org> <v6cehc$3viun$2@dont-email.me> <ba1adc0f48c6d2930356b072815d6e17d9ccc9ad@i2pn2.org> <v6cfv7$13k$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2024 22:23:36 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="2381981"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="diqKR1lalukngNWEqoq9/uFtbkm5U+w3w6FQ0yesrXg"; User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird In-Reply-To: <v6cfv7$13k$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 Bytes: 3021 Lines: 33 On 7/6/24 6:20 PM, olcott wrote: > On 7/6/2024 5:16 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >> On 7/6/24 5:55 PM, olcott wrote: >>> On 7/6/2024 4:51 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >>>> On 7/6/24 5:40 PM, olcott wrote: >>>>> >>>>> That requires HHH to report on what itself does before it does this, >>>>> thus exactly the same you you never needing to buy groceries once >>>>> you decide that you will do this. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Nope, because HHH is deterministic in behavior, >>> >>> It cannot report on the effect of what it did before it does this >>> otherwise we are back to you never needing to buy groceries as >>> soon as you decide to go buy them. >>> >> >> It MUST report on what it DOES. > > Exactly. That means that it cannot report on the > effect of something that it has not yet done. > > But all of its behavior comes into existance at once. There is no "Not yet done" as its future happened as soon as it was written. That is what deterministic means. YOu just fail to understand, because you are stupid, and seem to have a broken program somewhere in you.