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From: Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org>
Newsgroups: comp.theory
Subject: Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a
 new basis ---x86 code is a liar?
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2024 20:37:22 -0500
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On 11/8/24 8:32 PM, olcott wrote:
> On 11/8/2024 7:28 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>> On 11/8/24 8:22 PM, olcott wrote:
>>> On 11/8/2024 11:01 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>> On 11/8/24 10:02 AM, olcott wrote:
>>>>> On 11/8/2024 6:25 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>> On 11/7/24 10:56 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>> On 11/7/2024 9:10 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 11/7/24 11:31 AM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> DDD emulated by HHH has the property that DDD never reaches
>>>>>>>>> its "return" instruction final halt state.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But DDD emulated by HHH isn't an objective property of DDD.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It <is> a semantic property of that finite string pair.
>>>>>>> It <is> a semantic property of that finite string pair.
>>>>>>> It <is> a semantic property of that finite string pair.
>>>>>>> It <is> a semantic property of that finite string pair.
>>>>>>> It <is> a semantic property of that finite string pair.
>>>>>>> It <is> a semantic property of that finite string pair.
>>>>>>> It <is> a semantic property of that finite string pair.
>>>>>>> It <is> a semantic property of that finite string pair.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No it isn't
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Liar.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No, you are, becuase you don't know know what the words mean.
>>>>
>>>> The semantic property is the results of the COMPLETE emulation of 
>>>> the input given to HHH, 
>>>
>>> That you keep going back to the moronic idea of completely
>>> emulating a non-terminating input makes you look quite stupid.
>>
>> Why do you say that?
>>
>> It is the DEFINITION of a semantic property.
>>
> 
> *You yourself have already disagreed with that*
> 
> On 11/3/2024 12:20 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>  > On 11/3/24 9:39 AM, olcott wrote:
>  >>
>  >> The finite string input to HHH specifies that HHH
>  >> MUST EMULATE ITSELF emulating DDD.
>  >
>  > Right, and it must CORRECTLY determine what an unbounded
>  > emulation of that input would do, even if its own programming
>  > only lets it emulate a part of that.
>  >
> 

So, you don't understand what an "unbound emulation" is.

Sorry, you are just proving your ignorance.

An "Unbound Emulation" is a term of art that means an emulation that 
proceeds for an unbouned number of steps, in lay-terms, and infinite 
number of steps.

That is the same as "Completely".

>> You are just proving your stupidity by judging things by your un- 
>> informed and incorrect opinion rather than the definitions.
>>
>> Sorry, you are just proving how utterly stupid you are and that you 
>> are nothing but a pathological liar.
>>
>>>
>>>> not its partial emulation, and the complete emulation is of the DDD 
>>>> using THAT HHH, the one that aborts and returns the answer if that 
>>>> is the one you are claiming to be giving the right answer.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry, you are just proving your stupidity and ignorance.
>>>
>>>
>>
> 
>