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Subject: Re: Four Chatbots figure out on their own without prompting that
 HHH(DDD)==0
Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2025 03:28:48 +0800
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On Sat, 2025-07-19 at 14:19 -0500, olcott wrote:
> On 7/19/2025 12:02 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
> > On 7/19/25 10:42 AM, olcott wrote:
> > > On 7/18/2025 3:49 AM, joes wrote:
> > >=20
> > > > That is wrong. It is, as you say, very obvious that HHH cannot simu=
late
> > > > DDD past the call to HHH. You just draw the wrong conclusion from i=
t.
> > > > (Aside: what "seems" to you will convince no one. You can just call
> > > > everybody dishonest. Also, they are not "your reviewers".)
> > > >=20
> > >=20
> > > For the purposes of this discussion this is the
> > > 100% complete definition of HHH. It is the exact
> > > same one that I give to all the chat bots.
> > >=20
> > > Termination Analyzer HHH simulates its input until
> > > it detects a non-terminating behavior pattern. When
> > > HHH detects such a pattern it aborts its simulation
> > > and returns 0.
> >=20
> > So, the only HHH that meets your definition is the HHH that never=20
> > detects the pattern and aborts, and thus never returns.
> >=20
>=20
> All of the Chat bots conclude that HHH(DDD) is correct
> to reject its input as non-halting because this input
> specified recursive simulation. They figure this out
> on their own without any prompting.
>=20
> https://chatgpt.com/share/687aa4c2-b814-8011-9e7d-b85c03b291eb

It is still nothing to do with the Halting Problem proof (Because it is POO=
H)