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From: Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid>
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Subject: Re: [OT] Murder in New York
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2024 08:30:59 -0800
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On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 08:53:40 -0800, Bobbie Sellers
<bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote:

>On 12/12/24 08:43, Paul S Person wrote:
>> On Thu, 12 Dec 2024 08:58:15 -0000 (UTC), Charles Packer
>> <mailbox@cpacker.org> wrote:
>>=20
>>> On Wed, 11 Dec 2024 07:56:54 -0800, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 12/11/24 00:53, Charles Packer wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 10 Dec 2024 14:12:46 -0800, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12/10/24 13:04, quadibloc wrote:
>>>>>>> A few days ago, I had read in the news that the CEO of a major =
health
>>>>>>> insurer was gunned down. This was shocking; it seemed to mean =
that no
>>>>>>> one was safe from crime.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 	Actually it was a targeted assasination.
>>>>>> 	The killer had suffered a back injury and ended up
>>>>>> with lots of titanium screws holding his spine together.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 	I do not know exactly the beef he had but the
>>>>>> business of Health Insurance did not help the excutive's case with
>>>>>> Luigi Mangione.
>>>>>> =09
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The solution which is unlikely to happen with the incoming
>>>>>> admiistration is Basic Assured Income and Universal Healthcare.
>>>>>
>>>>> When that story hit the news I looked forward to the naming of the
>>>>> suspect. Ah, the allegorical aspects. A very English name murdered =
by a
>>>>> very Italian one. Hasn't there been some kind of beef for a while
>>>>> between the two most ancient institutions of Western civilization?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> 	Now from what I hear Luigi had a beef because of a
>>>> painful pre-existing back condition not because of the old =
opposition
>>>> between Northern and Southern Europe.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> At least some journalists have gone down an allegorical path
>>> with this story, using the lives of the protagonists
>>> rather than vicissitudes of health care. From the front page of
>>> the Washington Post: "As Mangione's once-charmed life
>>> seemed to be crumbling, Brian Thompson's fortunes appeared to
>>> be climbing."
>>=20
>> Unacceptable as it was, at least this appears to be an ordinary crime,
>> not an ideological one. For now, anyway.
>
>	To me it looks like the result of policies enforced by CEOs
>of Insurance compaies of Denying payment for care, delaying approval
>of care, and refusing the care for the particular patient. Just to
>increase profit.

Exactly. A non-ideological crime based on actual wrongdoing. Not in
any way admirable.

>Here is a comic illustrating this>
><https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2024/12/12/2291287/-Cartoon-Tom-the-Da=
ncing-Bug-and-the-Manhunt-for-the-Killer-CEO>

My solution is simpler: the person at the top is /always/ responsible
[1]. Unless he was active in supervising the organization and this was
hidden from him.

[1] This is a common trope, whether by Pres Truman ("The buck stops
here", pointing to his desk or perhaps the Oval Office) to Star Trek
VI, where Kirk agrees that, as Captain, he is responsible for what
happened. So why does the buck /not/ stop at the top dog in these
cases?
--=20
"Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"