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From: Zionazi <marcs12212@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: KV 482 (was Re: Fav Mozart PC recordings)
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2024 08:57:00 +0000
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On Thu, 25 Jul 2024 5:52:08 +0000, DeepBlue wrote:

> On Thu, 25 Jul 2024 5:14:43 +0000, DeepBlue wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 25 Jul 2024 4:56:08 +0000, DeepBlue wrote:
>>>
>>> On Wed, 24 Jul 2024 9:14:09 +0000, DeepBlue wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 24 Jul 2024 6:39:48 +0000, Zionazi wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> KV 491: Gould/Susskind (and likely the other
>>>>           Goulds and Pletnev, should probably
>>>>           also check out Lang Lang)
>>>>
>>>> Lang Van Bang's LIVE 491 is superb.
>>>> The studio recording with the same
>>>> band and konduktor is less so.
>>>
>>> The 2018 live performance with Honeck
>>> has disappeared from YouTube, however
>>> a more recent live Lang van Bang K491
>>> performance has surfaced in YouTube:
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLbyLHwppag
>>>
>>> My first impression is that the 2018
>>> performance was "better". It's been a
>>> while however since I last heard it
>>> and I would have to listen again for
>>> a fair comparison.
>>
>> Listening right now, and the 2018 live
>> with Honeck sounds "better" indeed. I
>> squirreled away a copy -- email me if
>> you are interested.
>>
>
> Having spent a few hours revisiting a
> few well known KV 491 recordings, I
> would say the top 3 to my ears are
> Pletnev, Bashkirov and Lang van Bang.

I don’t like Bashkirov here — neither of his two recordings. But the one
with Kogan seemed to be better. Too aggressive, hate the cadenza
(Schnabels is way more fun for example) — no magic happening, too much
rock n roll or sth.

>
> One should listen to Schnabel, Fischer
> Gieseking and Lili Kraus for historical
> context and perspective.

Afair gieseking is no good here, Lili kraus neither… Schnabel and
Fischer are good, but not match for pletnev or Gould.

>
> Casadesus, Gould, Kempff, Schiff and
> Uchida are obejct lessons in how not
> to play the piano, let alone Mozart!
> They are all sewing machines driven
> by metronomes.
>
> One surprising observation is how
> many recordings sound out of tune!
> This is perhaps understandable for
> older performances digitized from
> LPs.
>
> Ciao!