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From: "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
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On 2025-01-07 19:30, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
> On 2025-01-07 13:14, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>> Andrzej Matuch wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
>>
>>> On 2025-01-07 11:26, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>> Andrzej Matuch wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2025-01-07 08:43, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>>>> Andrzej Matuch wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2025-01-06 16:20, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>>>>>> The Natural Philosopher wrote this post while blinking in Morse 
>>>>>>>> code:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 06/01/2025 19:06, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-01-06 10:02, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 06/01/2025 13:49, Andrzej Matuch wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> The way they sell it, warming means a lesser availability of 
>>>>>>>>>>>> fresh
>>>>>>>>>>>> water. Obviously, this would result in people dying. With 
>>>>>>>>>>>> cooling
>>>>>>>>>>>> though, there would be a decreased availability of food in 
>>>>>>>>>>>> general,
>>>>>>>>>>>> so I don't see how one is worse than the other.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Except the narrative says that all of greenland will melt. 
>>>>>>>>>>> That's a
>>>>>>>>>>> fuck of a lot of fresh water
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If all of Greenland will melt, the people who are suddenly
>>>>>>>>>> inconvenienced by the world's warming could move there and 
>>>>>>>>>> turn the
>>>>>>>>>> continent-like country into something inhabitable for the 
>>>>>>>>>> first time in
>>>>>>>>>> thousands of years. I imagine that as a result of it never 
>>>>>>>>>> really being
>>>>>>>>>> used for agriculture, that land is incredibly fertile.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Not wrong there. In fact huge areas of Canadian, Alaskan and 
>>>>>>>>> Siberian
>>>>>>>>> tundra would be really quite nice places to live. Scarcely 
>>>>>>>>> worse than
>>>>>>>>> Scotland
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Except for buildings and equipment sinking into the melting 
>>>>>>>> tundra :-D
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is soil underneath all of that, Chris.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>        https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/u-s-military- 
>>>>>> sees-growing-threat-in-thawing-permafrost/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>        Climate change is rapidly altering the Arctic landscape, in 
>>>>>> particular the
>>>>>>        permafrost that serves as a foundation for buildings across 
>>>>>> the region.
>>>>>>        Warming temperatures are thawing out the frozen ground, and 
>>>>>> in the process
>>>>>>        it is threatening to unsettle structures that were built 
>>>>>> decades ago.
>>>>>
>>>>> "... that were built decades ago." How many buildings have been 
>>>>> erected
>>>>> decades ago in the waste known as Greenland? Even in Quebec where the
>>>>> north is settled to a degree, the amount of buildings in existence is
>>>>> minimal because the population is itself tiny.
>>>>>
>>>>>>        That's particularly worrisome for the U.S. military, which 
>>>>>> maintains
>>>>>>        facilities across the Arctic region. And it's one reason 
>>>>>> Hicks embarked on
>>>>>>        a two-day tour of the nation’s northernmost military bases.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>        “Building and maintaining infrastructure — like runways — 
>>>>>> on permafrost
>>>>>>        presents unique challenges for Arctic nations — which are 
>>>>>> growing with the
>>>>>>        effects of climate change,” Hicks wrote in a Twitter post 
>>>>>> on Monday.
>>>>>
>>>>> Once there is no longer permafrost, those challenges will be 
>>>>> eradicated too.
>>>>
>>>> And replacement structures will be built/rebuilt.
>>>>
>>>> And that doesn't include methane release.
>>>
>>> I don't mind if the people building new structure fart a time or two. Do
>>> you, Chris?
>>
>> Cut the patronizing crap.
> 
> I can't help but patronize here. You're looking at a gigantic country, 
> bigger than Europe, which is more or less uninhabited at the moment 
> because of its unfavourable conditions. The climate _might_ be warming 
> with the result being an uninhabited continent of a country becoming 
> viable for life, and you're concerned that the few buildings it has 
> might be destroyed and/or replaced, as if that hasn't happened in the 
> West before, and that some methane might be released. Who gives a shit? 
> Suddenly, you have a place where you can send the useless people looking 
> to be refugees in the West, if they really want freedom and another shot 
> at life. Suddenly, you have access to a wide variety of resources which 
> have not yet been exploited. And here _you_ are, Chris, concerned that 
> living there might increase the temperature in one hundred years by 
> another 0.1 degree and increase the sea level by a millimetre.
> 
> Funny enough, there are lots of buildings erected over a century ago 
> that are surrounded by the same height of water today than they were 
> back then. Nothing has changed regardless of what some scientists they 
> purchased tell you. We already know that the "global cooling," "global 
> warming" and finally "climate change" garbage is a scam meant to enrich 
> the people at the top even more. We are also aware that a lot of the 
> floodings that have happened recently, like in Spain, were manufactured 
> not natural. If you get rid of the structures holding the water out of 
> certain areas, it's obvious that you will end up with flooding.

What the fuck are you talking about? What structures? That's bullshit, 
rightwing propaganda.


-- 
Cheers, Carlos.