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From: mpsilvertone@yahoo.com (HarryLime)
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Subject: Re: The Lime sock on Stephan Pickering and NAMBLA
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2025 21:17:43 +0000
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On Mon, 10 Feb 2025 8:38:29 +0000, W.Dockery wrote:

> On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 18:42:45 +0000, HarryLime wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 17:29:10 +0000, Will Dockery wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 16:31:49 +0000, HarryLime wrote:
>>> Will Dockery wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> To me the problem with Stephan Pickering posting here on the poetry
>>>>> newsgroup was the determination of Jim Senetto and Michael Pendragon to
>>>>> drive him away at any cost, and they both tried to strongarm me into
>>>>> joining them with this hostile agenda.
>
> Even the Jewish Dr. David Scheimmer saw the antisemitic and homophobic
> behavior you and Jim Senetto displayed during that time.
>
> Scheimmer also noted the antisemitic mood in Long Island when he
> attended college there as a youth.

His name is "Schwimmer," Donkey.  At least that's how you presented it
at the time.

And if Dr. Schwimmer saw Jim's and my posts as being antisemitic, he
never said anything about it here.

> It seems Jim Senetto was probably raided with these local prejudices
> again Jewish people back around the same time Dr. Scheimmer was living
> in the area, early 1960s.

Since there was nothing antisemitic in anything Jim or I posted (again,
I remind you that I am a Jewish man with a Jewish family); any claims of
Long Island based antisemitism he might have experienced are suspect at
best.

You'll recall (or else the archives will remind you) that Dr. Schwimmer
was contacted to confirm that his "Shtar" appeared to be legitimate.

NOTE: A Shtar is a general word for a legal document of any sort.

Pickles was trying to prove that his self-administered conversion to
Judaism was legitimate by presenting a letter from a Rabbi of some
ersatz offshoot of Judaism that claimed his self-conversion was
acceptable.

The entire incident was a joke.

There is no such thing as self-conversion in Judaism.  Conversion
requires at least a year of study Judaism under the guidance of a Rabbi,
a circumcision, and being immersed in a Mikvah bath.  None of which
requirements Pickles fulfilled.

In short, there was never any question as to whether Pickles' Sthar was
invalid -- it was automatically invalidated by the fact that no Orthodox
or Conservative Jew would recognize it.

I found it highly amusing that Pickles would send this letter to you in
a hermetically sealed manila envelope (a fact which he stressed numerous
times) to present to some Jewish professor in a Columbus GA sports bar.

It's almost as good as the time you got snookered into dressing up as
Zorro with clown shoes.

If anything, the point of that incident was to make an even bigger
jackass out of Will Donkey.

And the fact that you posted photos of Dr. Schwimmer bursting out
laughing while reading Pickles' Shtar, makes your new claim that he
found it "antisemitic" seem extremely suspect.

Furthermore, one cannot be called antisemitic for attacking a fake Jew
-- which is precisely what Pickles was.



>>>>> When I refused to participate, both Michael Pendragon and Jim Senetto
>>>>> then turned on me with malicious attacks, even threats of violence, that
>>>>> lasted for many years.
>>>
>>> And so it goes.
>>>
>>> You lie and misrepresent, Pendragon.
>>>
>>> As always.
>>>
>>>> Jim Senetto turned on yu
> Because I wouldn't join Jim Senetto and you in your agenda to drive the
> late Stephan Pickering from this poetry newsgroup.

Are you claiming that Jim was fine with your treating your brother and
yourself to steak dinners on the $50.00 he'd sent you for Stinky George?

>>> That's a lie and misrepresentation you created then and continue to lie
>>> about.
>
> Proven in the newsgroup archives.

Point out an example.

Would you like me to post an example of Jim's anger toward you over the
$50?


>
>>> Jim Senetto sent $50 to Zod, not me.
>
> The money was Zod's to spend as he pleased.

The money never reached Stinky Zid.  Jim sent it to you to give to Zid. 
When it arrived, you emailed Stinky saying something along the lines of
"I've got the money from Jim, let's go out for steaks!"


>>> I did, however, refund the $50 to Senetto twice, meaning Senetto got
>>> $100 back for his $50.
>
> Exactly as it happened.

Here is Merriam-Webster's definition of Refund:


refund
1 of 3
verb (1)
re·​fund ri-ˈfənd  ˈrē-ˌfənd
refunded; refunding; refunds
Synonyms of refund
transitive verb

1
: to give or put back
2
: to return (money) in restitution, repayment, or balancing of accounts

HINT: Writing a $50 check to your daughter is *not* refunding the money
to Jim.

Writing a $50 check to an Animal Shelter is *not* refunding the money to
Jim.

It doesn't matter whether Jim suggested or ok'd either or both of those
actions.  They were not, *by definition,* examples of a *Refund.*


>> "Jim Senetto sent $50 to Zod, not me."
>
>
> Meaning the $50 was exclusively for Zod, and we delivered the $50 to Zod
> immediately.

Exclusively means for *only* Stinky Zod.  It doesn't mean for Stinky Zod
and his redneck buddies.

>
>> Jim sent the money to you.
>
> That's correct, and my brother David and I took the money to Zod over in
> Alabama.

No... you drove to Alabama to pick up Stinky Zod for steak dinners.


>> Zod, being homeless,
>
> Zod wasn't actually homeless yet but headed that way.
>
>  had no mailbox for him to send it to.
>
> Actually Zod was still living in the trailer, he has not been evicted
> yet.
>
> Absolutely the money should have just been sent directly to Zod.
>
>> "I did, however, refund the $50 to Senetto twice, meaning
>> Senetto got $100 back for his $50."
>
> An archived fact ^^^
>
>> You never refunded the money to Jim
>
> I refunded the $100 as Jim Senetto instructed.
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