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On Thu, 20 Mar 2025 23:33:47 +0000, rhertz wrote:
>
> On Thu, 20 Mar 2025 21:24:30 +0000, Paul.B.Andersen wrote:
> >
> > Well, since the GPS doesn't work it is no point in trying to
> > make you believe that it does, is it? :-D
>
> Nice analysis, Paul. Well redacted and with many details.
>
> Only THAT YOU FUCKED IT UP, AS YOU USUALLY DO!

No, he didn't.  Hertz doesn't seem to be a conscious entity.

> The master TCXO clock on the GPS SV have (according to the narrative of
> 1977 relativists), TWO OPERATING MODES:
>
> M1: Working at 10,230,000.000000 Hz (as good physics dictates)
> M2: Working at 10,229,999.995430 Hz (as relativists claim it to be
> necessary)

This was only true for the first ones in orbit.  Your M1 scenario hasn't
been implemented for decades.

> Your BLUNDER is that working in M2, the onboard counter has LESS COUNTS,
> NOT MORE, after the 86,400 sec/day.

Hertz's blunder is that he conflates time on board with time on the
ground.
His pseudo-Newtonian mind is incapable of understanding reality.  (I say
pseudo-Newtonian because he seems unable to understand even Newtonian
physics).

> So, your count is incorrect.
>
> Clock on Earth station: accumulates 883,872,000,000 pulses in 86400 sec.
>
> Working on M2 mode, clock on the GPS SV accumulates 883,871,999,608
> pulses in 86400 sec.

Hertz's problem is that, once again, he doesn't understand 86400 seconds
on earth is not 86400 seconds in orbit.  The onboard clock operates on
signals from the master frequency.  If the master frequency has been
lowered, then the clock will run slow, so the master clock will still
receive 86400 per "day."  Poor, poor Richard.  He is way out of his
depth.

> as measured IN THE SV. So, the count gives (86400s - 38.575μs). It's
> a LOWER LOCAL VALUE within the GPS SV.
>
> What relativists claim, because they are IDIOTS, is that such difference
> DISAPPEAR IN THIN AIR when PERCEIVED FROM EARTH (Ground level). And they
> celebrate that due to relativistic corrections, the L1 frequency REACHES
> EARTH with an increase in frequency of Δf/f = -4.4647E-10.

So an increase is negative?  That explains a lot about Hertz's brain.

> Such relativistic correction, idiots claim, allow that the L1 carrier
> emitted from the SV at 1,575,419,999.29622 Hz COULD REACH EARTH AT
> EXACTLY 1,575,420,000.000 Hz = 154 x 10,230,000.000000 Hz.

As Paul tirelessly explains, the carrier frequency experiences the
Doppler effect due to the speed of the satellites (sigh!).

> Is that clear enough? The act of detuning the SV TCXO causes a LOSS
> OF 38.5 usec on the orbiting clock.

Hertz is trying to confuse the issue by referring to the on-board clock.
He's no engineer.  An engineer would understand that if an oscillator
was adjusted to operate at a lower frequency and a counter received
that signal, he wouldn't be wondering where the "extra pulses" (received
BEFORE the oscillator was detuned) went :-))

> But FROM EARTH, it's perceived AS IF THAT DIFFERENCE HAS BEEN
> CANCELLED, because Schwarzschild advised so.

But the fact is that the slower clock in orbit matches the master
clock on the ground.  Not because Schwarzschild "advised so" but
because that is what REALLY happens.  We believe we know WHY it
happens because the theory matches experiment.

> Don't be confused about the values of time and frequency. Two sides of
> the same coin.
>
> Which is the truth? Relativity IS FALSE, A FALLACIOUS PSEUDOSCIENCE, AND
> THE ORBITING CLOCK WORKS ONLY IN THE M1 MODE.

There is no M1 mode on board, and there hasn't been for decades.

> Or, as Maciej always say, t'=t.

You would quote Malicious Maciej for justification?  That fool has been
posting lies for decades also.

> Please, hold on with your butthurt, or try some cream to easy the pain.

Hertz is the one with buttHertz.  Weird Wozniak believes Newtonian
physics
is proved because t' = t, but like ButtHertz, he doesn't define his
terms
correctly, or at all.  It's unclear whether ButtHertz is malicious or
just
incredibly stupid.