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From: Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org>
Newsgroups: comp.theory
Subject: Re: All of computation and human reasoning can be encoded as finite
string transformations --- Quine
Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2025 15:36:03 -0400
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On 4/20/25 3:27 PM, olcott wrote:
> On 4/20/2025 2:19 PM, Mr Flibble wrote:
>> On Sun, 20 Apr 2025 14:54:55 -0400, Richard Damon wrote:
>>
>>> On 4/20/25 1:53 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>> On 4/20/2025 11:29 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
>>>>> On 4/20/25 tic 1:33 AM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>> No counter-example to the above statement exists for all computation
>>>>>> and all human reasoning that can be expressed in language.
>>>>>
>>>>> But can all Human reasoning be actually expressed in language?
>>>>>
>>>>> For instance, how do you express the smell of a rose in a finite
>>>>> string so you can do reasoning with it?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/analytic-synthetic/
>>>>
>>>> all human reasoning that can be expressed in language <is> the
>>>> {analytic} side of the analytic/synthetic distinction that humanity has
>>>> totally screwed up since
>>>
>>> But it isn't, and that is YOUR screw up. Part of the problem is that the
>>> phrase "True by the meaning of the words alone", doesn't actually have
>>> meaning in a Natural Language context, as words have vaired, imprecise,
>>> and even spectrums of meaning, perhaps even multiple meanings at once.
>>> (This is even a form of word play used to convey special meanings).
>>>
>>>
>>>> Two Dogmas of Empiricism Willard Van Orman Quine
>>>> https://www.ditext.com/quine/quine.html
>>>>
>>>> Couldn't even understand that the term Bachelor as stipulated to have
>>>> the semantic meaning of Bachelor(x) ≡ ~Married(x) ∧ Male(x) ∧ Adult(x)
>>>> ∧ Human(x)
>>>>
>>>>
>>> No, the point he was making was that this is NOT the only possible
>>> meaning of Bachelor.
>>>
>>> Sorry, you are just showing you don't understand the arguments that you
>>> read, because the go over your head, and then YOU just assume theny must
>>> be wrong.
>>>
>>> Sorry, all that shows is your stupidity and ignorance.
>>
>> Attack the argument not the person.
>>
>> /Flibble
>
> Richard does this to try to get away with masking his own
> complete ignorance of any of the words that I just used.
>
Except that I ALWAYS start with the actual refutation, and thus you
claim is just a LIE.
Sorry, but you don't seem to understand how logic works.
Care to show how my refutation was incorrect?