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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!i2pn.org!i2pn2.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.lang.forth Subject: Re: Back & Forth - Co-routines Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2025 08:43:12 +1100 Organization: i2pn2 (i2pn.org) Message-ID: <0c5d606328f2ffbc90687485ff93a44a584a5e62@i2pn2.org> References: <nnd$2fb29a8e$298ef3f8@23fe4f00fa62d734> <vnq10p$162l3$1@dont-email.me> <nnd$28e37865$1ff3c947@ec3118cc4d5fd42b> <874j1aycdt.fsf@nightsong.com> <nnd$68d49e22$0e1b270a@ce4705a037955a82> <3c3bdb056696f15c43fa512b5366002d@www.novabbs.com> <2025Feb6.135712@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <3955434636b2a293c6a9c6d726ff6eae@www.novabbs.com> <ad7048513cca2117bb04396db85ef6196a257605@i2pn2.org> <2025Feb6.182051@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <246bf746dbd7827c3e6edf3027f51ef8c416c39d@i2pn2.org> <5a0218b4d50ec4d6fe658d60384da2bc@www.novabbs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2025 21:43:14 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: i2pn2.org; logging-data="3176672"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@i2pn2.org"; posting-account="XPw7UV90Iy7EOhY4YuUXhpdoEf5Vz7K+BsxA/Cx8bVc"; User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 In-Reply-To: <5a0218b4d50ec4d6fe658d60384da2bc@www.novabbs.com> Content-Language: en-GB Bytes: 2409 Lines: 21 On 7/02/2025 9:20 pm, minforth wrote: > Where does this self-limiting backwardness come from? > > Virtually all modern embedded devices communicate with > their outside world, and multitasking comes naturally. > On the software side, closures can be a very helpful > tool for communication and task management. > > So virtually all modern programming languages support > closures (albeit with subtle nuances). I think a modern > Forth should not be closed to modern programming concepts. > DOS is finally history. Or the need is largely manufactured and languages copy each other so as to appear 'modern and fully-featured'. This occurred even in the days of DOS when PC magazines reviewed and compared compilers. Vendors knew very well that the more frills they could list, the more likely the sale. Never mind the actual utility. This is, of course, true for all consumer products. https://groups.google.com/g/comp.lang.forth/c/x8hUOj1MetU/m/uxqag5NrOo0J