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From: Richard Damon <richard@damon-family.org>
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Subject: Re: DDD correctly emulated by HHH --- Correct Emulation Defined 2
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2025 22:47:41 -0400
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On 3/21/25 9:13 PM, olcott wrote:
> On 3/21/2025 7:50 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
>> On 3/21/25 8:02 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>
>>> DDD()
>>> [00002172] 55         push ebp      ; housekeeping
>>> [00002173] 8bec       mov  ebp,esp  ; housekeeping
>>> [00002175] 6872210000 push 00002172 ; push DDD
>>> [0000217a] e853f4ffff call 000015d2 ; call HHH(DDD)
>>> [0000217f] 83c404     add  esp,+04
>>> [00002182] 5d         pop  ebp
>>> [00002183] c3         ret
>>> Size in bytes:(0018) [00002183]
>>>
>>> For every HHH at machine address 000015d2 that emulates
>>> a finite number of steps of DDD according to the
>>> semantics of the x86 programming language no DDD
>>> ever reaches its own "ret" instruction halt state.
>>>
>>
>> So, you demonstrate your utter stupidity and use of incorrect 
>> definitions.
>>
>> For EVERY HHH at machine address 000015d2 that emulates just a finite 
>> number of steps and return, then the PROGRAM DDD 
> 
> does not exist because HHH is invoked from main()
> 
> 

SO you admit to misdefining your system.

Halt Deciders take PROGRAM (via a finite string representation) as their 
input. If DDD isn't a program, you can't ask about its halting behavior.

Note, if HHH is a program, then by the basic princples of programs, it 
can be made into a sub-program of another program. That is a basic part 
of a system being Turing Complete.

I guess your idea of programs are that your system is not Turing Complete.

Sorry, you are just proving your stupidity.