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Path: ...!fu-berlin.de!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written Subject: Re: Pearls Before Swine: Uncle Is Not Good With Money Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2025 09:06:16 -0800 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 59 Message-ID: <0ft7ojholbaorq5vjs47eka4lsd08skgrf@4ax.com> References: <vlpb2u$3h575$2@dont-email.me> <vlq4bj$3pd3p$1@dont-email.me> <wqagP.54961$XfF8.17989@fx04.iad> <vlrf0a$2ra1$3@dont-email.me> <vlriau$3osg$1@dont-email.me> <108d8f06-d39e-25dd-5cea-9c7ca854c816@example.net> <h9b5ojdavitt47k63ui4cdoffevm8b9tn4@4ax.com> <vlufub$ob5c$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2025 18:06:20 +0100 (CET) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="17cc186f884e3ad1fd75ec64e5ae1c53"; logging-data="1309346"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18L61dgVN7HYuRrdnaLByvcuOvjtMdq7lI=" User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 Cancel-Lock: sha1:tJsr2aMGInjpkDdeRQv97nQ2S9c= Bytes: 3444 On Sat, 11 Jan 2025 14:14:18 -0500, Cryptoengineer <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote: >On 1/11/2025 12:45 PM, Paul S Person wrote: >> On Sat, 11 Jan 2025 13:35:28 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote: >>=20 >>> On Fri, 10 Jan 2025, Bobbie Sellers wrote: >>=20 >> <snippo> >>=20 >>>> Actually Russia should be part of the Ukrainian State if you >>>> go back far enough in History. But the Ukrainian nation sparked = Russia. >>>> Kiev should be the capital. Most of Russian history started with = Kiev. >>> >>> This is incorrect. Ukraine and Russia should be part of the Swedish >>> kingdom! >>> >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rurik >>> >>> According to the chronicle, Rurik was one of the Rus', a Varangian = tribe. >>> Most historians believe that the Rus' were of Scandinavian = origin,[13] >>> more specifically from what is currently coastal eastern Sweden = around the >>> eighth century.[14] According to the prevalent theory, the name Rus' = is >>> derived from an Old Norse term for "the men who row", from an older = name >>> for the Swedish coastal area of Roslagen.[15][16] >>=20 >> While I was waiting for my Russian Basic class to begin, I did some >> reading. I found out a lot about Siberian folk religions but I also >> found the Scandanavian connection; indeed, IIRC, what I read suggested >> that a fair number of common Russian names for people are derived from >> Scandanavia. Among other things. >>=20 >> This gives the impressiion that the Great Russians are Swedes, and the >> Little Russans (Belarus) [1] are the real Russians. >>=20 >> Another theory is that they are, in fact, Finns. > >Don't tell a Finn that, if you value your health. >Besides, genetic and linguistic evidence would suggest otherwise. Yes, well, theories are like that. If it were certain, it wouldn't be a theory. And, Swede or Finn, that would make their Slavic language something they adopted along the way. And, of course, just because the /nobility/ wasn't Slavic doesn't mean the people they governed were not. --=20 "Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino, Who evil spoke of everyone but God, Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"