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From: Martin Harran <martinharran@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Top three reasons for optimism about the ID scam
Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2024 19:24:12 +0000
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On 4 Dec 2024 19:01:56 GMT, G <g@nowhere.invalid> wrote:

>Martin Harran <martinharran@gmail.com> wrote:
>[...]
>> 
>> The Galileo affair was essentially a clash of personalities and the
>> Pope badly misusing his authority to satisfy his personal pique at
>> being treated as he saw it as an idiot by Galileo and made subject to
>> public scorn. FWIW, I think things probably ended up going a lot
>> farther that the Pope intended and that is likely why he converted
>> Galileo's imprisonment to a very loose form of house arrest in a
>> luxury villa where he was able to carry on with his other scientific
>> studies.
>> 
>
>I worked for a few years on the Arcetri hill, from there you could see the
>place where GG spent his last years, it isC in the valley
>below the hill, but definetely not a "luxury villa".
>
>G

 Fair enough, I was going by the description in the link below [1] but
I bow to your direct knowledge. Nevertheless, I think that the
difference between "luxury" and  "a nice little place" is somewhat
subjective; certainly far from the '*dungeon* described, for example,
by Voltaire [2].

[1]
https://www.sma.unifi.it/index.php?module=CMpro&func=viewpage&pageid=474&newlang=eng

[2]
"The great Galileo, at the age of fourscore, groaned away his day in
the dungeons of the Inquisition, because he had demonstrated by
irrefragable proofs the motion of the earth"

[Voltaire. 'Descartes and Newton', 1728]