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Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-4.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.supernews.com!news.supernews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 01 Sep 2024 14:09:47 +0000 From: john larkin <jlarkin_highland_tech> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Instead scopes Date: Sun, 01 Sep 2024 07:09:46 -0700 Message-ID: <0ns8djtqe7ct4k21h8ubnj944fonq9i0u0@4ax.com> References: <4vtrcjpl9sp0lurrtf3ldcmhm58de156oo@4ax.com> <val7f8$33hu3$1@dont-email.me> <8f2tcj1832r0m6872hvp1fcrv8hsf3chsh@4ax.com> <vam90i$3bn2f$1@dont-email.me> <gjeucj5a7skeruudj8qcujc1f9b9t9o26r@4ax.com> <vanf8s$3h5er$1@dont-email.me> <mtjucjdqe2f91c2jsjp6011k0uvakuimog@4ax.com> <vap20i$1s5cl$1@solani.org> <8dv0djhj73b0ejudpkahnojgjk30i9rrbv@4ax.com> <je01dj177m9p0q25en4k2jm8u0bsj07t2j@4ax.com> <vaq1f2$jdj$1@dont-email.me> <vaq762$1ssg1$1@solani.org> <vb163a$1dt9b$1@dont-email.me> User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 39 X-Trace: sv3-U8MOFtnH93bZkHg78c5ICWIPzhT6mPvsHaeR3Z/PP4JJHltZ1qidmK9rPBfRqQlkUSM34J8R/jNjXP8!+V7gj9vl5+DOct0zZQ54LZChu6Vum+Skw82Vj28hIiNCLOoZoqLpsRikd7twuTxpaMOSr6Suxs3a!2Muj8Q== X-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/abuse.html X-DMCA-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 2929 On Sun, 1 Sep 2024 17:45:46 +1000, Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote: >On 30/08/2024 2:21 am, Jan Panteltje wrote: >> On a sunny day (Fri, 30 Aug 2024 00:43:39 +1000) it happened Bill Sloman >> <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in <vaq1f2$jdj$1@dont-email.me>: >> >>> It's lot easier and quicker to bread-board a circuit in LTSpice than it >>> is to wire up a test circuit, but what that means is that you need to >>> make fewer real circuits and they are a lot more likely to work when tested. >>> >>> That, on it's own, is enough to explain why labs look different today >>> than they did in the dark ages. >> >> All it explains is boeings falling apart and astronuts ending up stuck at the ISS >> and no moonlanding from the US, not even a probe. >> Slimulations are _not_ realty and never will be. > >But they can capture useful parts of reality, if you know what you are >doing. > >John Larkin's simulated inductors tend not to have any parallel capacitance. The trick is to know when it matters. ESR and core loss are usually more important. I designed this surface-mount inductor for my Pockels Cell driver, after several tries using commercial parts. They all smoked. It's wound on a specially marked Sharpie pen that we have carefully reserved. https://www.highlandtechnology.com/Product/T850 The grey gap-pad gives it some extra cooling. The board has lots of thermal vias down to the water-cooled baseplate.