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From: Mad Hamish <newsunspammelaws@iinet.unspamme.net.au>
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Subject: Re: Pearls Before Swine: Uncle Is Not Good With Money
Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2025 12:45:25 +1100
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On Thu, 9 Jan 2025 18:42:55 -0600, Lynn McGuire
<lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 1/9/2025 5:09 PM, Bobbie Sellers wrote:
>> On 1/9/25 12:20, Lynn McGuire wrote:
>>> Pearls Before Swine: Uncle Is Not Good With Money
>>>     https://www.gocomics.com/pearlsbeforeswine/2025/01/09
>>>
>>> Yeah, we knew that already.  Uncle has given several hundred billion 
>>> dollars to Ukraine.  Might as well set the money on fire and thrown it 
>>> in Atlantic.
>>>
>>> Lynn
>>>
>> 
>>      Like your brilliant leader, Mr.T, you fail to understand
>> how that works. We put billions in loans and war equipment in the
>> hands of the Ukranians and they kill Russians. They did not invite
>> the Russians to come and be killed.
>>      Vlad Putin the senior Oligarch of Russia sent them to
>> take over the Ukrainian Nation, a nation recognized by the
>> UN and other organizations. Russia under the Czars, under the
>> USSR especially under Stalin was treated very badly so though
>> they Ukrainians and the Russian are cousins they wanted to
>> be separate from Russia.
>> 
>>      But the money is spent with our allies who buy from us
>> or build their own war equipment. Our makers of war equipment
>> make more tools of War and profit immensely.
>>      Over all the Rich get Richer and the Poor get Poorer
>> which should make your pal of the billionaires much happier,
>> but maybe we can keep the Ukrainians somewhat free.
>> 
>>      bliss - the hobbler would use a rifle for a crutch
>
>Got some real numbers proving that instead of a bunch of old platitudes 
>and pie in the sky wishiwashiness ?  The loans are no good because the 
>underlying collateral has been destroyed.
>
>Ukraine is a disaster and Europe knows it.  We have sent blood and 
>treasure to a foreign power once again and are getting totally screwed. 
>The end result will be the same no matter what we do, Ukraine will be a 
>satellite of Russia.  Any difference from that will end in nuclear 
>weapon exchanges.
>
here's a list of equipment the US sent in the first year and a bit
https://globalaffairs.org/commentary-and-analysis/blogs/what-has-united-states-sent-ukraine-so-far?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiAhP67BhAVEiwA2E_9gyllVy0urfwPV1wuiQFeK8lsCflUUfSU8ozkcLwqRwhdiQuPnreLMhoCYwQQAvD_BwE

as of Septemper last year 
"It’s important to note that of the $175 billion total, only $106
billion directly aids the government of Ukraine. Most of the remainder
is funding various U.S. activities associated with the war in Ukraine,
and a small portion supports other affected countries in the region."

here's an analysis of spending
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/11/29/ukraine-military-aid-american-economy-boost/
" Of the $68 billion in military and related assistance Congress has
approved since Russia invaded Ukraine, almost 90 percent is going to
Americans, one analysis found."