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From: Paul S Person <psperson@old.netcom.invalid>
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Subject: Re: Awfully quiet in here...
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2024 08:54:50 -0800
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On 12 Nov 2024 00:38:29 -0000, kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote:

>Paul S Person  <psperson@old.netcom.invalid> wrote:
>>I believe he also had the Brownshirts
>>[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturmabteilung], which were both larger
>>and more disciplined than any "militia" existing in the USA today.
>>
>>So the parallel fails at the critical point: no large disciplined
>>group of thugs designated as Republican Party security to carry out
>>Trump's will.
>
>Trump attempted in 2020 in Oregon to use Federal police to shut down
>demonstrations and he mostly got away with it.

You are confusing propaganda with reality.

The night after they started their efforts, the number of demostrators
jumped from 100 or so to 1000.=20

They were not there to shut it down; it was shutting down all by
itself. They were there to inflame it.

And the courts did rule on it -- they ruled that they must have an
identifying number on their suits and that each must have the same
number each night and that a list of names/numbers must be maintained
so that complaints could be filed against them as needed.

They were, IOW, ordered by a court to act like a police force instead
of thugs.

The Portland police must be very tolerant. I would have expected them,
on seeing unidentified men seizing protesters and forcing them into an
unidentified vehicle, to arrest them for kidnapping and let the judge
sort it out in the morning.

We had something like that happen up here, but some time back,
involving INS agents. And /they/ got arrested.

>I think that use was actually constitutional although the courts never
>got a chance to rule on it.  I don't think it -should- be constitutional
>however.

Note that the courts I referred to above may not have considered the
constitutionality of it -- just the anti-America nature of it.
--=20
"Here lies the Tuscan poet Aretino,
Who evil spoke of everyone but God,
Giving as his excuse, 'I never knew him.'"