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Path: ...!Xl.tags.giganews.com!local-4.nntp.ord.giganews.com!nntp.supernews.com!news.supernews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2025 14:46:33 +0000 From: john larkin <jlArbor.com> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Binocular choke extras Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2025 07:46:18 -0700 Message-ID: <0puqtjprfqavpbi3bktvjjpkefmh53scue@4ax.com> References: <1r9gp9h.1k6o87n8sg91cN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> <vrfg74$1oqut$1@dont-email.me> <frgotj19g6vht8lgvs0lvm2f57sne2v29o@4ax.com> User-Agent: ForteAgent/8.00.32.1272 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 38 X-Trace: sv3-qlDi0ebPnTNakoUpDMRG+w2jWH9+7KrHGYO7H/JvJJznpbfZf7E3Roag091H/Zx85Xb3/9wpXBHdjKd!b81F5qRsachXoOrLmNJvzuvnzx1ZWIA090nekLV7JS6hMlXgMidxFBBX8ZekjLlYgWj6fKkof/dC!OWWv5Q== X-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/abuse.html X-DMCA-Complaints-To: www.supernews.com/docs/dmca.html X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 Bytes: 2556 On Thu, 20 Mar 2025 12:39:43 -0400, legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca> wrote: >On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 23:24:36 +0100, Jeroen Belleman ><jeroen@nospam.please> wrote: > >>On 3/19/25 22:40, Liz Tuddenham wrote: >>> I've just taken delivery of a couple of ferrite 'binocular' choke cores; >>> each one came with two thinwalled metal tubes and some bits of printed >>> circuit board. The tubes appear to go through the holes in the choke >>> and the holes in the boards fit over the ends of the tubes, with copper >>> areas that could possibly be soldered to them. >>> >>> Does anyone know what purpose these serve? >>> >>> >> >>This sounds very much like the transformers used in wideband RF >>power amplifiers. See for example Helge Granberg's application >>note 762. The tubes with a piece of circuit board form the single- >>turn low impedance winding, and a number of turns of insulated >>copper wire going through the tubes form the high-impedance >>winding. This makes for a good coupling factor and consequently >>good wideband operation. >> >><https://www.communication-concepts.com/content/AN762/AN762_Application_Note.pdf> >> >>Jeroen Belleman > >Can also be used in directional couplers and baluns, which I suppose > are just high frequency transformers by another name. > >RL Some people enjoy calling txline transformers "ununs" when neither end is a balanced load against ground. Is there a balbal?