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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly
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Date: Wed, 14 May 2025 10:16:17 -0500
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On 5/14/2025 7:26 AM, dbush wrote:
> On 5/14/2025 12:28 AM, olcott wrote:
>> On 5/13/2025 10:50 PM, dbush wrote:
>>> On 5/13/2025 11:47 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>> On 5/12/2025 1:20 PM, dbush wrote:
>>>>> On 5/12/2025 2:17 PM, olcott wrote:
>>>>>> Introduction to the Theory of Computation 3rd Edition
>>>>>> by Michael Sipser (Author)
>>>>>> 4.4 out of 5 stars    568 rating
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/Introduction-Theory-Computation-Michael- 
>>>>>> Sipser/ dp/113318779X
>>>>>>
>>>>>> int DD()
>>>>>>   {
>>>>>>    int Halt_Status = HHH(DD);
>>>>>>    if (Halt_Status)
>>>>>>      HERE: goto HERE;
>>>>>>    return Halt_Status;
>>>>>>   }
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DD correctly simulated by any pure simulator
>>>>>> named HHH cannot possibly terminate thus proving
>>>>>> that this criteria has been met:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <MIT Professor Sipser agreed to ONLY these verbatim words 10/13/2022>
>>>>>>      If simulating halt decider H correctly simulates its
>>>>>>      input D until H correctly determines that its simulated D
>>>>>>      would never stop running unless aborted then
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      H can abort its simulation of D and correctly report that D
>>>>>>      specifies a non-halting sequence of configurations.
>>>>>>   </MIT Professor Sipser agreed to ONLY these verbatim words 
>>>>>> 10/13/2022>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Which is not what you thought he agreed to:
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have proven otherwise below:
>>>
>>> And *yet again* you lie when definitive proof has been repeatedly 
>>> provided that he did not agree with out:
>>
> 
> The below is a non-response to the above.  This constitutes your 
> admission that Sipser did not in fact agree with you, and the fact that 
> you trimmed the below proof in your response is your further admission 
> that you intent to continue to lie about it.
> 
> 
>> (the words only have one correct meaning)
>> *UNTIL YOU ADDRESS THESE POINTS THEY WILL BE ENDLESSLY REPEATED*
>>
>> People tried for more than a year to get away with saying
>> that DDD was not emulated by HHH correctly until I stipulated
>> that DDD is emulated by HHH according to the rules of the
>> x86 language. Then they shut up about this.
>>
>> People tried to get away with saying that HHH
>> cannot not decide halting on the basis of
>> *simulated D would never stop running unless aborted*
>> until I pointed out that those exact words are in the spec.
>>
>> People tried to get away with saying that the correct
>> emulation of a non-halting input cannot be partial
>> Yet partial simulation is right in the spec:
>> *H correctly simulates its input D until*
>>
> 
>>> On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 2:41:27 PM UTC-5, Ben Bacarisse wrote:
>>> I exchanged emails with him about this. He does not agree with anything
>>> substantive that PO has written. I won't quote him, as I don't have
>>> permission, but he was, let's say... forthright, in his reply to me. 
> 

He did agree with these verbatim words. I have the emails
to prove it. I am not discussing ANY mere opinions about
these words. I am only discussing THE EXACT MEANING OF THESE WORDS.

<MIT Professor Sipser agreed to ONLY these verbatim words 10/13/2022>
     If simulating halt decider H correctly simulates its
     input D until H correctly determines that its simulated D
     would never stop running unless aborted then

     H can abort its simulation of D and correctly report that D
     specifies a non-halting sequence of configurations.
</MIT Professor Sipser agreed to ONLY these verbatim words 10/13/2022>


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