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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: comp.theory
Subject: Re: HHH(DDD) correctly determines the halt status of its input
 according to this specification
Date: Wed, 14 May 2025 16:25:53 -0500
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On 5/14/2025 4:16 PM, dbush wrote:
> On 5/14/2025 3:17 PM, olcott wrote:
>> On 5/14/2025 2:06 PM, Mike Terry wrote:
>>> On 14/05/2025 18:50, Mike Terry wrote:
>>>> On 14/05/2025 08:11, vallor wrote:
>>>>> Spent a couple of hours reading back the last few days of posts. 
>>>>> Huboy,
>>>>> what a train wreck.  (But like a train wreck, it's hard to look
>>>>> away, which might explain how this has been going on for 20(?) years.)
>>>>>
>>>>> I want to thank both Richard's, wij, dbush, Mike, Keith, Fred,
>>>>> Mikko, and anybody else I've forgotten for trying to explain to
>>>>> Mr. Olcott and Mr. Flibble how you all see their claims.  I wanted to
>>>>> point out three things:
>>>>>
>>>>> a) Mr. Olcott claims his HHH simulator detects an non-terminating
>>>>> input and halts.  But others (I forget who) report that -- due
>>>>> to a bug -- D would actually terminate on its own.  His HHH
>>>>> simulator therefore gives the wrong answer.
>>>>
>>>> Not really due to a bug.  D actually /does/ terminate on its own, 
>>>> and that's a consequence of PO's intended design.  (Yes, there are 
>>>> bugs, but D's coding is what PO intended.)
>>>>
>>> Hmm, I thought some more about this.  What's considered a bug (rather 
>>> than e.g. a design error) is entirely dependent on the program's 
>>> specification. 
>>
>> void DDD()
>> {
>>    HHH(DDD);
>>    return;
>> }
>>
>> <MIT Professor Sipser agreed to ONLY these verbatim words 10/13/2022>
>>      If simulating halt decider H correctly simulates its
>>      input D until H correctly determines that its simulated D
>>      would never stop running unless aborted then
>>
> And *yet again* you lie by implying Sipser agrees with your 
> interpretation of the above when definitive proof has been repeatedly 
> provided that he did not:
> 

If that was actually true then you could provide an
alternative meaning for the exact words stated above.

I keep challenging you to provide this alternative
meaning and you dodge because you know that you are
lying about there being any alternative meaning
FOR THE EXACT WORDS LISTED ABOVE.


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