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From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly
 met --- WDH
Date: Wed, 14 May 2025 23:11:03 -0500
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On 5/14/2025 10:08 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
> On 5/14/25 10:23 PM, olcott wrote:
>> On 5/14/2025 9:22 PM, olcott wrote:
>>> On 5/14/2025 9:08 PM, Mike Terry wrote:
>>>> On 15/05/2025 01:11, Keith Thompson wrote:>>
>>>>> Fair enough, but what I was trying to do in this instance was
>>>>> to focus on the single statement that PO says Sipser agreed to.
>>>>> PO complains, correctly or not, that nobody understands or
>>>>> ackowledges the statement.  I suggest that perhaps it's actually
>>>>> a true statement *in isolation* (very roughly if a working halt
>>>>> detector exists then it works as a halt detector), even though it
>>>>> does not support PO's wider claims.  I've seen a lot of time and
>>>>> bandwidth expended on this one statement (that PO recently hasn't
>>>>> even been quoting correctly).
>>>>>
>>>>> I do not expect to make any progress in helping PO to see the light.
>>>>> I'm just curious about this one statement and the reaction to it.
>>>>> I am neither sufficiently qualified nor sufficiently motivated to
>>>>> analyze the rest of PO's claims.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I made a post at around 00:36 saying what I suspect Sipser agreed 
>>>> to. IOW how Sipser expected readers (PO included) to interpret the 
>>>> words.
>>>>
>>>
>>> *THOSE WORDS ONLY HAVE ONE CORRECT MEANING*
>>> (I just noticed that today)
>>>
>>> You were perfectly correct until you made the
>>> statement that
>>>
>>> On 5/14/2025 7:36 PM, Mike Terry wrote:
>>>  > In the case of his HHH/DD, the simulated input
>>>  > (DD) /does/ stop running if simulated far enough
>>>
>>> Every HHH is identical except that the outermost
>>> simulation reaches its abort criteria one whole
>>> simulation before the next inner one.
>>>
>>> This means that unless the outermost HHH aborts
>>> then none of them do. HHH can not simply wait.
>>>
>>
>> I have already gone over this 150 times in the last
>> three years.
>>
> 
> And it has been refuted nearly as many times, and the refutations 
> IGNORED, showing you have run out of ways to hide your error.
> 

It has never been refuted because it is inherently true.

> You just don't understand what the "behavior" of the input means, 

The exact sequence of steps dumbo.

> because you just belive your own lies, rather than the actual definative 
> definitions, because you can't stand rules.

It is simple software engineering that is just beyond you skill level.

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