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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Overcoming the proof of undecidability of the Halting Problem by a simple example in C Date: Fri, 16 May 2025 10:13:13 +0300 Organization: - Lines: 30 Message-ID: <1006oi9$3l93f$1@dont-email.me> References: <1005jsk$3akrk$1@dont-email.me> <bc6f0f045212bdfb7f7d883426873a09e37789ea@i2pn2.org> <1005u6v$3cpt2$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 16 May 2025 09:13:13 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="1dfa167546830b8917680f44790d20f0"; logging-data="3843183"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+SEkXAltAuawfloVgxa6CV" User-Agent: Unison/2.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:0OFHHrrAf3YAG8VyKZNcF30UeT0= On 2025-05-15 23:43:27 +0000, olcott said: > On 5/15/2025 6:18 PM, Richard Damon wrote: >> On 5/15/25 4:47 PM, olcott wrote: >>> I overcome the proof of undecidability of the Halting >>> Problem in that the code that >>> "does the opposite of whatever value that HHH returns" >>> becomes unreachable to DD correctly simulated by HHH. >> >> Nope, only to youtr INCORRECTLY simuated by HHH. >> > > In other words you believe that professor Sipser > screwed up when he agreed with these exact words. > > <MIT Professor Sipser agreed to ONLY these verbatim words 10/13/2022> > If simulating halt decider H correctly simulates its > input D until H correctly determines that its simulated D > would never stop running unless aborted then > > H can abort its simulation of D and correctly report that D > specifies a non-halting sequence of configurations. > </MIT Professor Sipser agreed to ONLY these verbatim words 10/13/2022> One may indeed thik so. Or pehaps he knew what he was doing but cheated. To sincerely agree with you without extreme care is an error. -- Mikko