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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Incorrect requirements --- Computing the mapping from the input to HHH(DD) Date: Fri, 16 May 2025 10:50:06 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 19 Message-ID: <1007mre$3qb7l$21@dont-email.me> References: <vv97ft$3fg66$1@dont-email.me> <853816e160c7b3fe75c71f0728e72989d9fb2e41.camel@gmail.com> <vvp1fm$3r5li$4@dont-email.me> <b049926b61baa5d69d11655a8af06e537b7acd71.camel@gmail.com> <vvqga9$gldn$3@dont-email.me> <41e08841caf0d628beb5105bc78531a412eea440.camel@gmail.com> <vvql3p$gldn$15@dont-email.me> <cb999b6746607a1445c196e485a2c1124eaee8b5.camel@gmail.com> <vvqnev$i5d0$3@dont-email.me> <07c4f2302645a7e58957b5e5bffed80397a6ddae.camel@gmail.com> <vvr0ot$k9nu$1@dont-email.me> <04bd32e2a5572305de0376f9569172932ffb252f.camel@gmail.com> <vvr2ov$khl4$2@dont-email.me> <72f8c8295d3a0ff265a67b0de838516ade16c6d5.camel@gmail.com> <vvr6lj$lieg$1@dont-email.me> <8667c45172be6519444525c30d280cde06d77e2b.camel@gmail.com> <vvr8dj$lu2b$1@dont-email.me> <7281f97665272ea0eb85e56940648f6c807b0b8e.camel@gmail.com> <vvralq$me5h$1@dont-email.me> <f5a9ca0c0edaeb582b14c3babee27e25d41fc953.camel@gmail.com> <vvrgmf$n9a9$4@dont-email.me> <15a2c03c9dd9005ee5dc80c5284bff16d167c6ab@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Fri, 16 May 2025 17:50:08 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="a793c50ac46b1404361ae4f1062ef558"; logging-data="4009205"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX188kFq0HOszWxTGsy5uv3pp" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:jddy3SQC1P2isU3So2C2MJCS3U4= X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 250516-4, 5/16/2025), Outbound message Content-Language: en-US X-Antivirus-Status: Clean In-Reply-To: <15a2c03c9dd9005ee5dc80c5284bff16d167c6ab@i2pn2.org> Bytes: 2858 On 5/16/2025 10:38 AM, joes wrote: > Am Sun, 11 May 2025 19:51:27 -0500 schrieb olcott: > >> If on a real system an input tried to fool the denial-of-service-attack >> detector IT WOULD FAIL. >> Prior to my work a denial-of-service-attack detector WOULD FAIL. It >> would not know to reject DDD. > No, the goal is not to make HHH run forever. It would not fail at > terminating contrary to HHH's result. > The goal of the counter-example input to the HP proofs has always been to make halting undecidable on this input. A simulating termination analyzer fixes that. -- Copyright 2025 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer