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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho Subject: Re: Worldcon AI scandal Date: Sat, 17 May 2025 14:35:49 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 40 Message-ID: <100a3bm$dk9b$5@dont-email.me> References: <1008ahe$4fc$3@reader1.panix.com> <1008gb9$22v$2@dont-email.me> <1009ppp$bsqh$1@dont-email.me> <100a0bl$1k0r$7@gallifrey.nk.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 17 May 2025 15:35:51 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="298b09d28cd7985a4701ca9f001ab9cb"; logging-data="446763"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/I8Pq4o6MYIDXttpn8V5z8WgKYXJFZQJk=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:1nx1aYItoRb+JM/em74TEBEjfG8= In-Reply-To: <100a0bl$1k0r$7@gallifrey.nk.ca> Content-Language: en-GB Bytes: 3008 On 17/05/2025 13:44, The Doctor wrote: > In article <1009ppp$bsqh$1@dont-email.me>, > Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote: >> On 17/05/2025 9:05 am, The True Doctor wrote: >>> On 16/05/2025 22:26, Keith F. Lynch wrote: >>>> According to >>>> https://seattlein2025.org/2025/04/30/statement-from-worldcon-chair-2/ >>>> the upcoming Worldcon has used ChatGPT to vet its program participants. >>>> >>>> I'm encouraged by the fact that there were more than a hundred >>>> responses to that statement, and every one of them was negative. Some >>>> because ChatGPT is infamous for "hallucinating," i.e. making stuff up >>>> out of thin air. And some because ChatGPT was programmed using the >>>> works of professional writers, incuding would-be Worldcon program >>> >>> Professional writers? You mean the woke ones that write like uneducated >>> children? >>> >>> No one needs any writer's permission to read their work, not even >>> ChatGPT. What the creators of ChatGPT should have done is paid the >>> copyright holders to buy the texts to begin with at the current market >>> price, about $2-$12 per eBook, rather than downloading them from sites >>> PirateBay for nothing in order to train their LLM. Of course the woke >>> perverts want more than the cover price for ChatGPT to read their works >>> and that is totally unjustifiable. You can't charge readers a different >>> price to buy your work depending on who they are. >> >> Except a (human) reader might read the story a very few times whereas >> ChatGPT might use the work over and over and over again. > > Every used ChatGPT Dannyboy? > We all know that's what you use to write your reviews for you. -- The True Doctor https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCngrZwoS0n21IRcXpKO79Lw "To be woke is to be uninformed which is exactly the opposite of what it stands for." -William Shatner