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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Don Y <blockedofcourse@foo.invalid> Newsgroups: sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: The Spanish Grid Drop-out - recently released information. Date: Sat, 17 May 2025 09:42:03 -0700 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 37 Message-ID: <100ae8v$fouh$1@dont-email.me> References: <n-q*qgicA@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk> <vvtium$18vkn$1@dont-email.me> <vvtovo$1a4th$1@dont-email.me> <WLHUP.255339$v2h6.142714@fx14.iad> <vvvm80$1sf5m$1@dont-email.me> <kB1VP.48755$JRnc.12987@fx37.iad> <0l6fflx9t.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <10040vj$302p5$1@dont-email.me> <4osgflxtup.ln2@Telcontar.valinor> <jaac2k937bbjk90eidfsunt38raj9fkm42@4ax.com> <1005ioj$3ae76$1@dont-email.me> <1rcf02s.ms3pru17wmqoN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> <1008rg1$1sok$1@dont-email.me> <4d0h2kln54a1kp308b4n31um1edttu3rjf@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sat, 17 May 2025 18:42:12 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="c53be5ad189e61e289b4809a32a282a3"; logging-data="517073"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/mxo7FL/mqMvEEc8gsKuY4" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:adOKh+h4U+RQu0mdH/khClFdVkA= In-Reply-To: <4d0h2kln54a1kp308b4n31um1edttu3rjf@4ax.com> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2721 On 5/17/2025 5:39 AM, Joe Gwinn wrote: >>>> This doesn't happen in aircraft. ----------------------------^^^^^^^^ >>> The ambient noise level in an aeroplane is much higher than in a house ----------------------------------^^^^^^^^^ >>> on a quiet night. (Also, look up Fletcher-Munson curves to see why 600 >>> c/s would be a lot worse than 50 or 60 c/s.) >>> >>> Alternators for 600 c/s are feasible at a few kW in aircraft but they --------------------------------------------------------^^^^^^^^ >>> are difficult to scale up to power station size. >> >> A modern large aircraft may have close to a megawatt of generation capacity. ------------------^^^^^^^^ > That seems too paltry. > > .<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nimitz-class_aircraft_carrier> -----------------------------------------------^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Propulsion is 190 Megawatts. In earlier ships, this would be all > steam and mechanical. > > .<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_John_F._Kennedy_(CVN-79)> > > Later ships are increasingly electric, to support modern things like > big radars, electromagnetic launch systems, lasers, railguns, and so > on.