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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met --- Mike my best reviewer Date: Sat, 17 May 2025 19:00:29 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 44 Message-ID: <100b7ut$khnq$1@dont-email.me> References: <vvte01$14pca$29@dont-email.me> <c5a47349d8625838f1ee2782c216e0ebf9223bc6@i2pn2.org> <vvuj6l$1j6s0$3@dont-email.me> <b78af2e0b52f178683b672b45ba1bc2012023aaf@i2pn2.org> <1000dlc$21dtc$5@dont-email.me> <1000qdb$24gr3$4@dont-email.me> <1000rir$24jh0$3@dont-email.me> <1000rqc$24gr3$7@dont-email.me> <1000son$24sr2$3@dont-email.me> <7947826fb84c9c8db49c392b305d395c3669907f@i2pn2.org> <1002dre$2i4bk$14@dont-email.me> <1002vp2$2mbr6$3@dont-email.me> <10030c3$2mivc$3@dont-email.me> <87h61mang3.fsf@nosuchdomain.example.com> <1003cu5$2p3g1$1@dont-email.me> <10070cl$3mmus$1@dont-email.me> <1007j6b$3qb7l$2@dont-email.me> <1009iu4$agi7$1@dont-email.me> <100a6d9$e80n$1@dont-email.me> <100aa5c$f19u$1@dont-email.me> <6b21dc04df76f0c91517919081b83705a3aeb359@i2pn2.org> <100aq6g$i785$2@dont-email.me> <100aqqj$i8i0$1@dont-email.me> <4637d932171b8e508e2e937883627ace67a37878@i2pn2.org> <100atdg$ilsf$1@dont-email.me> <68ba33506c9c85de8f7ba9f43a5e56dd0565144e@i2pn2.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 18 May 2025 02:00:29 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="95cd7ab4fbc269222bd094bf289b9f2a"; logging-data="673530"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18l57komHnppNPBEejgAxb6" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:iN37RDQroC4vL/wJ1SdFTjsXSxk= X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 250517-6, 5/17/2025), Outbound message Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <68ba33506c9c85de8f7ba9f43a5e56dd0565144e@i2pn2.org> X-Antivirus-Status: Clean On 5/17/2025 6:35 PM, Richard Damon wrote: > On 5/17/25 5:00 PM, olcott wrote: >> >> That <is> its correct criterion measure and Mike >> uses this same criterion measure on his infinite >> loop example. > > But it only does a correct simulation if it doesn't abort its simulation. > > PERIOD. > >> >> On 5/14/2025 7:36 PM, Mike Terry wrote: >> https://al.howardknight.net/? >> STYPE=msgid&MSGI=%3C1003cu5%242p3g1%241%40dont-email.me%3E >> >> H correctly simulates as far as [A], at which point >> it correctly determines that >> "its simulated input would never stop running unless aborted", >> so it can decide "non-halting". >> >> H is not reporting on actual the behavior of H(D) >> that halts after D has been aborted. > > It isn't? Then it isn't a Halt Decider. > Mike said it is a correct partial halt decider when his SHD simulates an infinite loop and then reports on the behavior of what would happen if this SHD did not abort its simulation. Thus Mike says that the SHD should not report on the actual behavior of SHD/infinite loop that does abort its input. If you can't pay attention to these details about what Mike said because of your ADD how is your performance at work? Does anyone at work notice that you can't keep focus on a single point? -- Copyright 2025 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer