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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: John S <Sophi.2@invalid.org> Newsgroups: uk.d-i-y,sci.electronics.design Subject: Re: Current consumption of LCD kitchen timer? Date: Sat, 17 May 2025 19:40:14 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 78 Message-ID: <100ba8g$l394$1@dont-email.me> References: <XnsB2DB94CDD19321F3QA2@135.181.20.170> <s8qu1kpqmo3unudah49ekkgcu3ssm9s6q7@4ax.com> <vvnsuh$3k0fq$1@dont-email.me> <36uu1k9dnlnle60okphglgqdnb9i88umgg@4ax.com> <XnsB2DCB5BD83C431F3QA2@135.181.20.170> <b5ef3e26-9231-290a-8804-1d085b12a1e5@electrooptical.net> <on322kpt0cl2ktjof88drm2kbp8fas9ucg@4ax.com> <vvs01r$u3br$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sun, 18 May 2025 02:39:45 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="31eb6b91115e1c311bb541d308d681a3"; logging-data="691492"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18MIY759kDZ/NTxPOyESbVl" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:lixyabpi5zZXHaiHNYukXJRRFFQ= In-Reply-To: <vvs01r$u3br$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US On 5/12/2025 12:13 AM, Paul wrote: > On Sun, 5/11/2025 4:57 PM, john larkin wrote: >> On Sun, 11 May 2025 16:32:03 -0400, Phil Hobbs >> <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote: >> >>> On 2025-05-11 12:51, Pamela wrote: >>>> On 17:15 10 May 2025, john larkin said: >>>>> On Sat, 10 May 2025 10:56:01 -0500, John S <Sophi.2@invalid.org> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> On 5/10/2025 9:58 AM, john larkin wrote: >>>>>>> On Sat, 10 May 2025 14:37:40 +0100, Pamela >>>>>>> <pamela.private.mailbox@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm interested to know the current drawn by a kitchen LCD digital >>>>>>>> timer. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> (1) How much current does the timer draw when counting time? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> (2) How much current is drawn when the piezo buzzer is sounding? >>>>>>>> (Averaging out beeps and silent bits.) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My guesses are 2mA and 25mA, respectively. Is that about right? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I mean a timer similar to this one, running off a 1.5V battery. >>>>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/Digital-Kitchen-Timer/dp/B00GOPICNM >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That suggests a product line: a series of batteries (AA, AAA, 9v) >>>>>>> that measure current wirelessly, or datalog. >>>>>> >>>>>> Hey! I like that idea! >>>>> >>>>> A small PCB could have a tiny lithium battery and a uP with an >>>>> internal ADC. A diode would make a logarithmic current-to-voltage >>>>> converter from picoamps to milliamps. May as well report temperature >>>>> too. >>>>> >>>>> Someone could sketch a schematic to discuss. It needs the right uP >>>>> and some code. And some mechanical design. >>>>> >>>>> Might not handle high peak currents, amps. >>>>> >>>>> Of course the electronics could be in a box with a tiny flex running >>>>> to the dummy battery. Or just squeeze the flex between the battery >>>>> and a contact. Or just sell the flex, with banana plugs on the other >>>>> end to go into a DVM. That's too easy. >>>> >>>> I asked the question about current consumption because, when the time >>>> is up, I leave my kitchen timer beeping until it cuts out. That's >>>> usually a minute of beeping. >>>> >>>> If this is done a couple of times a day, would the AAA battery run out >>>> in an appreciably shorter time? >>>> >>> >>> I admire your patience. That would drive me nuts. I doubt that the >>> beeper requires much current--piezo sounders are pretty efficient at >>> turning battery power into annoying noises. ;) >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Phil Hobbs >> >> Whoever invented the piezo buzzer should be welded into a prison cell, >> with a dozen piezo buzzers. >> > > Does a piezo run off 1.5V ? > > This sounds like alien technology. > Nah. Bridge type drive using two port pins doubles the voltage. I've done it and it's been in a project in my house for about 5 years. Just checked and it still works. I check it every year. I drive it at its resonant frequency so that it makes max noise.