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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho Subject: Re: Worldcon AI scandal Date: Sun, 18 May 2025 23:14:29 +1000 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 43 Message-ID: <100cmfj$10er6$2@dont-email.me> References: <1008ahe$4fc$3@reader1.panix.com> <1009ppp$bsqh$1@dont-email.me> <100a0bl$1k0r$7@gallifrey.nk.ca> <100a3bm$dk9b$5@dont-email.me> <100a6gn$1gmj$6@gallifrey.nk.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 18 May 2025 15:14:28 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="f73e5ba94eeafa534913d98abf726133"; logging-data="1063782"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX18hymW2zk+UeMk9WSZBCg0o" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:128.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/128.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.20 Cancel-Lock: sha1:RbPRhdP2nLWrrcCnMr2yOLG1mpw= X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Antivirus: AVG (VPS 250518-2, 5/18/2025), Outbound message In-Reply-To: <100a6gn$1gmj$6@gallifrey.nk.ca> On 18/05/2025 12:29 am, The Doctor wrote: > In article <100a3bm$dk9b$5@dont-email.me>, > The True Doctor <agamemnon@hello.to.NO_SPAM> wrote: >> On 17/05/2025 13:44, The Doctor wrote: >>> In article <1009ppp$bsqh$1@dont-email.me>, >>> Daniel70 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote: >>>> On 17/05/2025 9:05 am, The True Doctor wrote: >>>>> On 16/05/2025 22:26, Keith F. Lynch wrote: >>>>>> According to >>>>>> https://seattlein2025.org/2025/04/30/statement-from-worldcon-chair-2/ >>>>>> the upcoming Worldcon has used ChatGPT to vet its program participants. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm encouraged by the fact that there were more than a hundred >>>>>> responses to that statement, and every one of them was negative. Some >>>>>> because ChatGPT is infamous for "hallucinating," i.e. making stuff up >>>>>> out of thin air. And some because ChatGPT was programmed using the >>>>>> works of professional writers, incuding would-be Worldcon program >>>>> >>>>> Professional writers? You mean the woke ones that write like uneducated >>>>> children? >>>>> >>>>> No one needs any writer's permission to read their work, not even >>>>> ChatGPT. What the creators of ChatGPT should have done is paid the >>>>> copyright holders to buy the texts to begin with at the current market >>>>> price, about $2-$12 per eBook, rather than downloading them from sites >>>>> PirateBay for nothing in order to train their LLM. Of course the woke >>>>> perverts want more than the cover price for ChatGPT to read their works >>>>> and that is totally unjustifiable. You can't charge readers a different >>>>> price to buy your work depending on who they are. >>>> >>>> Except a (human) reader might read the story a very few times whereas >>>> ChatGPT might use the work over and over and over again. >>> >>> Every used ChatGPT Dannyboy? >> >> We all know that's what you use to write your reviews for you. > > :-) Yes, Binky, that, seemingly, is YOUR bestest Buddy, Aggy, having a go at YOUR use of ChatGPT, Binky. -- Daniel70