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From: "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com>
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Subject: Re: Now, student visas revoked for unknown reasons
Date: Sun, 18 May 2025 18:20:31 -0000 (UTC)
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The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
>Tue, 8 Apr 2025 04:35:15 -0000 (UTC), Adam H. Kerman <ahk@chinet.com>:

>>Trump administration is revoking student visas of students not connected
>>to anti-Israeli protests.

>>https://apnews.com/article/f1-visa-international-college-student-trump-9d4d900d328a0c205503c1178e70f1d5

>I read that article and it specifically mentioned deportation orders
>had been given in quite a few cases where student visas were being
>cancelled after the student in question had either dropped out or
>graduated.

>That doesn't sound shocking to me - decades ago my mother studied in
>the US on a student visa (not shocking - a Vancouver girl studying in
>Seattle) and after graduation applied for and got the standard green
>card. (Also not shocking as she was by then married to an American)

>(One of the few things I regret is having mislaid her actual card as I
>had it in my filing cabinet after her death which was 35+ years after
>her US studies.)

Of course it's shocking. If the student is no longer studying or
graduated, there is no reason to automatically deport him and I suggest
that the law isn't to be read that way. Rather, student visas clearly
allowed a generous transition period.

The university is required to report who is enrolled and who is no
longer enrolled. If the visa holder is no longer a student, then the
visa holder cannot travel outside the United States then return, for the
visa holder no longer holds a visa valid for re-entry.

It doesn't make sense that Trump had to cancel these visas anyway. If
the student is no longer enrolled, the visa cannot be renewed. As it had
already expired, it didn't require cancellation.

But the moment of graduation didn't change the foreign national's status
from student to illegally present.

The time present in the United States on a student visa didn't have
short end points like a tourist visa.

The student visa issue is one of those utter bullshit problems with the
visa system. We are talking about foreign nationals with an American
college education. Hell, some even obtain doctorates. How the hell are
these people undesireable aliens? How is someone with a doctorate not
qualified to work?

Of all the people who should have been allowed to immigrate easily, it
should be those who completed American educational requirements.