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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Overcoming the proof of undecidability of the Halting Problem by a simple example in C Date: Mon, 19 May 2025 00:27:05 -0500 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 43 Message-ID: <100effa$1euvr$1@dont-email.me> References: <1005jsk$3akrk$1@dont-email.me> <bc6f0f045212bdfb7f7d883426873a09e37789ea@i2pn2.org> <1005u6v$3cpt2$1@dont-email.me> <1005v0p$3b07v$1@dont-email.me> <10063u0$3dmiv$1@dont-email.me> <1006on8$3l9t7$1@dont-email.me> <1007kgq$3qb7l$9@dont-email.me> <1009lm9$b15q$1@dont-email.me> <100ceum$uvq0$1@dont-email.me> <87ecwl1s2p.fsf@bsb.me.uk> <100dscu$18b5s$1@dont-email.me> <87v7pxzbp4.fsf@bsb.me.uk> <100du9m$18m8u$1@dont-email.me> <100dvuj$18b5q$2@dont-email.me> <100e17m$194d7$1@dont-email.me> <100e3qo$1d7a1$1@dont-email.me> <100e5g1$1do0r$1@dont-email.me> <100e7qg$1e5fs$1@dont-email.me> <100e9ns$1ee1a$1@dont-email.me> <100eb2m$1ejgp$1@dont-email.me> <100ebsj$1eo7p$1@dont-email.me> <100edn6$1eu82$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Mon, 19 May 2025 07:27:10 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="54427c6633a8689b841d1d48a1b07f55"; logging-data="1539067"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+02XuYM7h9tyTmO3xwTOcV" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:Nahw7N19jMPoWU+5Q05ZUgBAYEM= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <100edn6$1eu82$1@dont-email.me> X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Antivirus: Norton (VPS 250519-0, 5/18/2025), Outbound message On 5/18/2025 11:57 PM, Richard Heathfield wrote: > On 19/05/2025 05:25, olcott wrote: >> On 5/18/2025 11:12 PM, Richard Heathfield wrote: >>> On 19/05/2025 04:49, olcott wrote: >>> >>> ...a load of nonsense that didn't address my reply at all. I won't >>> rebut it point by point because I have already dealt with all of his >>> remarks, some of them several times over. >>> >>> < SNIP! > >>> >>> I'm beginning to wonder whether he ever learned to read for >>> comprehension. >>> >> >> That you tried to get away with dodging my point > > I'm not dodging your point. I'm simply not interested in debating your > point when it is already being so expertly debated by Mike Terry and Mike Terry's recent post On 5/14/2025 7:36 PM, Mike Terry wrote: https://al.howardknight.net/?STYPE=msgid&MSGI=%3C1003cu5%242p3g1%241%40dont-email.me%3E was succinct and correct and explained all of the details of how a simulating halt decider could be derived from these words: <MIT Professor Sipser agreed to ONLY these verbatim words 10/13/2022> If simulating halt decider H correctly simulates its input D until H correctly determines that its simulated D would never stop running unless aborted then H can abort its simulation of D and correctly report that D specifies a non-halting sequence of configurations. </MIT Professor Sipser agreed to ONLY these verbatim words 10/13/2022> -- Copyright 2025 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer