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From: zen cycle <funkmasterxx@hotmail.com>
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.tech
Subject: Re: RE: Re: Trump and $400 Million
Date: Mon, 19 May 2025 07:15:34 -0400
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On 5/18/2025 11:35 AM, cyclintom wrote:
> On Thu May 15 17:01:19 2025 Zen Cycle  wrote:
>> On 5/15/2025 4:37 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>>> On 5/15/2025 2:51 PM, cyclintom wrote:
>>>> I finally discovered where that idiotic rumor came from. Air Force One
>>>> has been greatly delayed from Boeing because DEI really screwed up
>>>> their quality.
>>>>
>>>> So while Trump was in the UAE, they offered to give him a private jet
>>>> which was worth $400 million. Of course he turned it down because the
>>>> present Air Force One is far more secure in any case.
>>>>
>>>> But the left wingers have been screaming that Trump took a $400
>>>> Million bribe, which he didn't. It must be fun to be able to invent
>>>> any reality you want.
>>>
>>> The current planes (primary Air Force One are pairs, so one can be in
>>> maintenance while the other is flying. Note also any airplane with POTUS
>>> in it uses AF1 as their call sign.) are the only two examples of that
>>> model still flying in USA. At 35 years old, they are at the end of their
>>> useful life and so new planes were ordered in 2018 for 2024 delivery.
>>>
>>> The planes are not yet built and the delivery is now extended to perhaps
>>> 2027:
>>>
>>> https://www.airandspaceforces.com/air-force-one-boeing-requirements-2027/
>>
>> What really surprise me about the whole affair is that anyone is
>> entertaining the idea that the Qatari jet could be reasonably converted
>> to an AF1. Aside from have a base of a 747, there are few similarities.
>> The Qatari jet would have to be gutted to the superstructure so that it
>> could be fitted with different wiring, hydraulics, fuel lines, air frame
>> reinforcement members, and armor plating. It needs larger fuel tanks
>> that are reinforced to sustain damage. All the extra weight of the
>> reinforcement, electronic countermeasure equipment, and larger fuel
>> tanks require larger engines, not to mention it needs engines with
>> enough thrust to do very short take offs.
>>
>> Essentially, its a completely different aircraft. it's actually cheaper
>> and easier to build an AF1 from the ground up than it would be to start
>> from a completely assembled 747.
>>
>> I'm absolutely no fan of trump, but POTUS needs to have a plane that's
>> been designed with purpose, not retrofitted like some dodge conversion van.
>>
>>>
>>> Mr Trump is in Qatar, not UAE. The scheming traitorous Qataris offered
>>> a jet for his use. Many people, I among them, think that's batshit crazy
>>> in general, and in particular for anything from Qatar. The bastards
>>> gave shelter to Kalid Sheikh Mohammad after he bombed the World Trade
>>> Center in 1993, provide residences for Hamas' upper echelon and their
>>> families, fund Hamas and other jihadi murderers including top Al Quaeda
>>> directors. The list is long:
>>>
>>> https://www.memri.org/reports/qatars-support-anti-us-terrorist-activity-
>>> and-attacks
>>>
>>> Mr Trump has not turned it down as of this morning.
>>
>> And he wont. He'll get a free plane for personal use after his
>> presidency, emollients clause be damned and this spineless DOJ and
>> congress won't do a fucking thing to stop him. It's already allegedly at
>> an Airfield in San Antonio:
>>
>> https://www.houstonchronicle.com/business/article/trump-qatar-jet-air-force-one-san-antonio-20323298.php
>>
>>>
>>> You might make a habit of reading a couple pf newspapers every morning,
>>> which would easily keep you abreast of national and world issues.
>>
>> Oh, c'mon Andrew. Tommys imagination is _much_ more entertaining.
>>
>>>
>>> p.s. Anyone on any day can do something stupid:
>>>
>>> https://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/data-mine/2015/12/02/the-king-of-
>>> saudi-arabia-gave-over-13m-in-gifts-to-the-obamas-last-year
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Flunky doesn't read newspapers, he tunes in to CNN and believes everything they say. 

Except that I can't remember the last time I tuned into CNN

> That's why he is the very definition of "loser". 

Hmmm....like someone who brags about is million dollar investment 
ballooning into a million dollars over 5 years?

> Hey Flunky, tell us again that you've done 600 miles this year at an average of 20 mph. 

Why would I do that? According to https://www.strava.com/athletes/16053273

Activities 	35
Distance 	715.8 mi
Elev Gain 	39,266 ft
Time 	39h 48m

gives about 17.9. Sure, most of that is virtual (typical for this time 
of year) but comports with my last two (successful) commutes:

https://www.strava.com/activities/14256779418
shows 18.6

https://www.strava.com/activities/14261577903
shows 18.7

> Is it really that painful being such a loser?

I wouldn't know personally, but based on how much of a cranky angry old 
bitch you are, it must be pretty bad.