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From: Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com>
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Subject: Re: 283 aliens here
Date: Mon, 19 May 2025 21:57:08 -0700
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On 5/17/25 16:34, Andrew W wrote:
> "Bobbie Sellers"  wrote in message news:100ah56$fsq2$1@dont-email.me...
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5/16/25 19:19, Andrew W wrote:
>>> "Mitchell Holman"  wrote in message 
>>> news:XnsB2E1D39845498629555@185.151.15.190...
>>>>
>>>> "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote in
>>>> news:1008hi7$fig$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>
>>>>> "Mitchell Holman"  wrote in message
>>>>> news:XnsB2E1844A41583629555@185.151.15.160...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Malte Runz <nobodys@busine.ss> wrote in
>>>>>> news:d2se2kd3522ql7j97e64e3upbh2snqj4pg@4ax.com:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, 16 May 2025 12:16:47 +1000, "Andrew W" <space@defense.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Mitchell Holman"  wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:XnsB2E0D047FD4F5629555@185.151.15.160...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Andrew W" <space@defense.com> wrote in
>>>>>>>>> news:1005t7r$3cnf6$1@dont-email.me:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Mitchell Holman"  wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:XnsB2E04EFADAAA0629555@185.151.15.190...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   Has that happened since the discovery
>>>>>>>>> of hundreds of exoplanets?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Discovery of exoplanets is only the first step. They're still not
>>>>>>>> telling the people the important details like the earth's true
>>>>>>>> history and who/what else is in this galaxy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I take it that you know many of the details. You know Earth's true
>>>>>>> history and a lot of other facts about what goes on in this galaxy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But instead of sharing that information, and your sources, with us,
>>>>>>> you'll spend post after post coming up with excuses for not doing
>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 'You're too lazy to do your own research.' 'I can't list all the
>>>>>>> information I've spent decades finding.' 'The deep state has
>>>>>>> destroyed the evidence.' 'You only believe MSM.' 'You're mind
>>>>>>> controlled by the elites.' 'Why do you even need evidence?'
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On and on it goes. We been through this many times before, so unless
>>>>>>> you have some new material, I'll suggest you go fuck yourself. Cool?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    It is depressing there are so many
>>>>>> conspiracy-behind-everything kooks like
>>>>>> him.  Their lives re so unremarkable and
>>>>>> enpty they invent a "special knowledge"
>>>>>> they think elevates them above everyone
>>>>>> else.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> But scientists never invent new theories to become prominent and get
>>>>> government grants?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    You know that scientific grant requests
>>>> get previewed by other scientists, no?
>>>>
>>>
>>> And they are more trustworthy and have nothing to gain? It's 
>>> basically a club.
>>
>> A very internally competitive club where the scientists try to find 
>> flaws in
>> data, its acquistion, and the logic usually mathematical to reject the 
>> new
>> theories.  What they have to gain is the sharing of possibly accurate 
>> data
>> and ideas.  Generally until an experiment or data acquistion mode is 
>> tested
>> in another laboratory it is not considered proven or the theory 
>> relating to
>> it is considered for acceptance.
>>
> 
> Yes that does happen, but what also happens is the establishments deride 
> and suppress discoveries that would ruin their narratives.
> Much of the science debates that go on are also to distract the masses 
> and muddy the waters.
> 
> 
>>
>> Yes it takes years to gain the skills necessary for scientific and/or 
>> technological
>> research to be done but you would not be sitting whereever you are and
>> typ[ng into your computer if poeple did not no devote themselves to such
>> studies.  I will remind you or inform you if you did not know that when I
>> was young computers were mostly human beings who devoted themselves
>> to mathematics.
>>
>> Computers then became gigantic electrical machines then electronic
>> machines which materials reseach managed to reduce to much handier
>> sizes.  You are using the results of scientific research and many 
>> theoretical
>> changes to communicate so yoiu should consider that seriously when
>> you come off with your half-baked ideas about science and scientists.
>>
> 
> The establishments allowed computer tech, television tech etc., 
> basically entertainment, mainly to occupy people with crap and video 
> games. Busy people don't ask questions. Governments hate questions.
> 
> 
>>
>>>>> Every ten years or so they throw out most of their theories and make
>>>>> up new ones. But you still trust them that only they have the 'facts'.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    Bingo. That is where Nobel prizes come
>>>> from, disproving a previously held theory
>>>> with a new one, backed by evidence.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Thin evidence that's open to interpretation. But they get their 
>>> money. And Nobel prizes are another motivation and fame generator.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> We
>>>> thought the world was static, then we
>>>> discovered plate techtonics, we thought
>>>> the moon was dead, then we discoved
>>>> moonquakes, we thought gravity was just
>>>> attractive, then we discovered it can
>>>> repel things. Ain't science grand?
>>>>
>>>
>>> So mainstream scientists used to be really dumb. Now they're less dumb.
>>> Many ancient people knew more about the stars as depicted in wall art 
>>> than many later scientists.
>>>
>>
>> The ancients built non-optical observatories to study the
>> heavens with the unaided eye.
>> But they had no idea of the nature of the Sun or of other stars as far
>> as we know.  Some figured out the Earth was more spherical than
>> flat but no great knowlege of the stars but the knowlege of their
>> observation.  Mostly they did observations to construct astrological
>> charts and to make sure of the Quarter-Days i.e. Eqinoxes and
>> Solstices.  Which is what a lot of ancient monuments were constructed
>> to determine.
>>
> 
> You don't know that. There is archaeological evidence that ancient 
> humans were contacted by advanced ETs who imparted advanced celestial 
> knowledge, including energy generation, healing tech etc.

	More baloney.

Stonehenge and other ancient monuments as well as India's great
observatories are testaments to mankind's study of the heavens.  And it was
largely astrological study to determine propitious days for certain events.

	If aliens had been informing them then they would certainly have had
surviving optical instruments.
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