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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.iecc.com!.POSTED.news.iecc.com!not-for-mail From: John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail Subject: Re: Client Auth certificates, threat or menace? Date: Tue, 20 May 2025 20:18:26 -0000 (UTC) Organization: Taughannock Networks Message-ID: <100io2i$2ahf$1@gal.iecc.com> References: <100iavl$13mj$1@gal.iecc.com> <100iip0$di9$1@news.misty.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Tue, 20 May 2025 20:18:26 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: gal.iecc.com; posting-host="news.iecc.com:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:676f:7373:6970"; logging-data="76335"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@iecc.com" In-Reply-To: <100iavl$13mj$1@gal.iecc.com> <100iip0$di9$1@news.misty.com> Cleverness: some X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test77 (Sep 1, 2010) Originator: johnl@iecc.com (John Levine) According to Claus A�mann <INVALID_NO_CC_REMOVE_IF_YOU_DO_NOT_POST_ml+sendmail(-no-copies-please)@esmtp.org>: >John Levine wrote: > >> By my understanding, the only place that a mail system uses Client >> Authentication certs is that a submission client can present a cert >> for SMTP AUTH rather than a username and a password. It's a niche > >There is more, see cf/README: Relaying. Well, OK, but in practice that's a special case of submission. >sendmail doesn't care about "EKU": > >sendmail.org.cert.pem >Certificate: > Issuer: C = GB, ST = Greater Manchester, L = Salford, O = Sectigo Limited, CN = Sectigo RSA Organization Validation Secure Server CA > X509v3 extensions: > X509v3 Key Usage: critical > Digital Signature, Key Encipherment > X509v3 Basic Constraints: critical > CA:FALSE > X509v3 Extended Key Usage: > TLS Web Server Authentication, TLS Web Client Authentication That's not very helpful since that cert has both key usages. The claim, which I'm not sure I believe, is that the calls to openssl have default values that want the client flag. -- Regards, John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly