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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.comp.os.windows-11 Subject: Re: Microsoft Introduces New Command-Line Text Editor Date: Tue, 20 May 2025 22:48:16 -0400 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 22 Message-ID: <100jetg$2l5nh$1@dont-email.me> References: <100hcgj$2502r$1@dont-email.me> <m9438eFe414U1@mid.individual.net> <100ip1s$2d97u$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Wed, 21 May 2025 04:48:17 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="5c25f25e062c11cbf655f1d638f751a4"; logging-data="2791153"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19NOk1tHpkrdTiFhkmQ/wkeNxM0jKiuUOU=" User-Agent: Ratcatcher/2.0.0.25 (Windows/20130802) Cancel-Lock: sha1:4SR/Z+/Z1j/bsZxUKucCEa9J1L0= In-Reply-To: <100ip1s$2d97u$1@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US Bytes: 2413 On Tue, 5/20/2025 4:35 PM, Jeff Barnett wrote: > On 5/20/2025 1:25 PM, rbowman wrote: >> On Tue, 20 May 2025 07:54:59 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >> >>> Microsoft also wanted to avoid the “how do I exit vim?” meme, so it >>> built its own text editor instead of relying on other available >>> options. >> >> I'll admit I wondered how to exit vim, or the original vi to be specific, >> but that was 45 years or so ago. > In the early 1980s (approximately when you were trapped in the vim maze) an excited colleague told me I just had to try out some new version of EMACS running on our PDP10 farm at ISI - I had been using some other editor. I was having some fun figuring out a few simple commands; then I tried to exit: ctr x, ctr q, etc. After 15 minutes I screamed for help. I avoided EMACS after that until a few years latter when I was using the grown up adult version integrated into the Symbolics Lisp Machine's development environment. Life had changed for the good. The word "EMACS" was its own meme. It's like playing Rachmaninoff. According to a colleague who was enjoying EMACS at his desk "some of the chords are hard to play and you need a good hand span" :-) Somehow VIM just isn't the same. Paul