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From: Rhino <no_offline_contact@example.com>
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Subject: Re: [OT] Judge reams out people avoiding jury duty
Date: Wed, 21 May 2025 11:08:03 -0400
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On 2025-05-21 11:03 a.m., Dimensional Traveler wrote:
> On 5/20/2025 11:08 PM, Ian J. Ball wrote:
>> On 5/20/25 5:45 PM, Rhino wrote:
>>
>>> A judge in Hamilton, Ontario gathered a whole lot of people who had 
>>> failed to turn up for jury duty and demanded to know why.
>>>
>>> https://www.thespec.com/news/crime/hamilton-courtroom-fail-to-obey- 
>>> jury- duty-summons/article_6719b3d0-6d16-58bc-801e-62bf15b3fed1.html
>>>
>>> I've only been called once and I showed up. The defendant made a last 
>>> minute decision to plead guilty and the whole jury pool of 250 was 
>>> dismissed so I wasn't there very long.
>>>
>>> I'm under the impression that most Americans feel that only fools 
>>> fail to wiggle out of jury duty. Is this true? I've never heard 
>>> anyone on this side of the border express contempt for the notion of 
>>> serving on a jury although I'm sure everyone called finds it 
>>> inconvenient. Then again, given the lame excuses offered to the judge 
>>> in this article, willingness to do jury duty may not be as widespread 
>>> as I assumed.
>>
>> I get jury summons at least about every 2-3 years. I have done 2 
>> juries (and missed being on a third), and I feel like I've done my bit 
>> - they should leave me alone now.
>>
>> It is hugely inconvenient for me, as a teacher to serve on a jury, and 
>> they don't make it easy to move jury duty to, say, summer.
>>
>> So...
>>
> Apparently I'm lucky.  It is a significant number of years between 
> notices for possible jury duty for me and I live in a "1 day or 1 trial" 
> county so usually if I even have to sho up the courts only have 1 day 
> to put me on a jury.
> 
> Last time it was a slip and fall civil case.  The defense attorney was 
> asking us if we would consider the size of the plaintiffs monetary 
> demand in finding his client liable.  I responded asking aren't we 
> supposed to not consider that until _after_ we had found there to be any 
> liability.  The judge said I was correct and shortly thereafter I was 
> the first potential juror excused.
> 
I'm starting to sense a pattern here, based on what you and BTR have 
said: the ideal juror is the one that has no common sense, no training 
in law, and no experience in law enforcement. In other words, they want 
you naive and gullible so you are easier to manipulate....

-- 
Rhino