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From: AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org>
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Subject: Re: Science of cycling still largely mysterious
Date: Wed, 21 May 2025 20:29:13 -0500
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On 5/21/2025 7:27 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
> On Wed, 21 May 2025 20:07:10 -0400, Frank Krygowski
> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> 
>> On 5/21/2025 7:50 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
>>> On Wed, 21 May 2025 18:46:55 -0400, Frank Krygowski
>>> <frkrygow@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/21/2025 3:36 PM, Catrike Ryder wrote:
>>>>>    
>>>>> Either ignorance is when a person doesn't know what they need to know,
>>>>> or else, everyone is ignorant.
>>>> We're dealing with a slow learner.
>>>>
>>>> The conversation so far should have made it clear that everyone is
>>>> ignorant about _some_ things.
>>>
>>> Indeed...  so ignorance is when someone doesn't know something they
>>> need to know, not just when they just don't know something.
>> Logic error. That wasn't a logical conclusion at all, based on what went
>> before.
>>
>> Maybe you should get curious about logic! Try a course in Symbolic
>> Logic. It can be fun, and very enlightening.
> 
>   Is that where you "learned" that correlation implies causation?
> 
> For most people simple logic requires no group think time in
> classroom, and no dimbulb wussy standing in front of a classrom
> spouting his own biased nonsense.
> 
> --
> C'est bon
> Soloman


If you two stop pissing in each other's beer, correlation 
does _suggest_ causation. That's how we form hypotheses.

A correlation may be coincidental or it may be in fact 
causal for which we need (depending on the question) an 
appropriate experiment or a large enough data series to 
prove or disprove it.

-- 
Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971