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Path: ...!2.eu.feeder.erje.net!3.eu.feeder.erje.net!feeder.erje.net!news.roellig-ltd.de!open-news-network.org!weretis.net!feeder8.news.weretis.net!news1.tnib.de!feed.news.tnib.de!news.tnib.de!.POSTED.torres.zugschlus.de!not-for-mail From: Marc Haber <mh+usenetspam1118@zugschl.us> Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc Subject: Re: Anybody Using IPv6? Date: Thu, 22 May 2025 09:25:18 +0200 Organization: private site, see http://www.zugschlus.de/ for details Message-ID: <100mjgu$arl5$1@news1.tnib.de> References: <pan$e6d88$f019cb49$2e3cccf9$253bfbf1@linux.rocks> <m8s17vF4395U2@mid.individual.net> <100c243$c9t$1@reader1.panix.com> <100hcol$3nsd6$1@news1.tnib.de> <100hiha$25ta5$4@dont-email.me> <OpycnTuZzd5U1rD1nZ2dnZfqn_ednZ2d@giganews.com> <100jqbn$4nh8$1@news1.tnib.de> <100kr28$2sf5j$2@dont-email.me> <100l8kn$80aq$1@news1.tnib.de> <100liu3$322u6$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Thu, 22 May 2025 07:25:18 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: news1.tnib.de; posting-host="torres.zugschlus.de:81.169.166.32"; logging-data="356005"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@tnib.de" X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 6.00/32.1186 Bytes: 3329 Lines: 50 Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> wrote: >On 2025-05-21, Marc Haber wrote: >> Bobbie Sellers <bliss-sf4ever@dslextreme.com> wrote: >>> IVP6 comes from having too many web sites to fit in IVP4. >> >> No. THAT issue has been solved with name-based virtual hosting and >> SNI. Which is too bad since it decreases the pressure to get rid of >> v4. > >Here the IPv4 problem is not websites, but hosts/nodes/devices. IPv4 >only survives because of NAT. Yes. >IPv6 seems to make it quite easy to get non-local addresses. At least >when properly deployed. YES! >> ¹ I am not saying that IPv6 is the best protocol ever but it's the >> best we've got at the moment. > >What would be a good description/introduction/... in textual form of >IPv6 to introduce people to the way it's intended to be used? Stuff like >mentioning address scopes, RAs, DHCP, multicast... That is a very hard question. I'd recommend a more practical approach, but that would need to begin with an ISP who has enabled and deployed IPv6 in the proper form, so that one gets quick gratification from just using it. Sadly, I am not a very good teacher, and IPv6 is one of the topics where knowledge is actually a handycap: The better you know IPv4, the harder it is to begin with IPv6 because you'll find yourself looking for features that you NEED for IPv4 and where it is not immediately obvious that you don't need that particular functionality for IPv6. Having virtualization available would make things easier since you could build your own lab with a router and a handful of clients. But that's its own topic to start with. The most important thing to take away is: Just don't disable it. You might find yourself using IPv6 without even noticing. Greetings Marc -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marc Haber | " Questions are the | Mailadresse im Header Rhein-Neckar, DE | Beginning of Wisdom " | Nordisch by Nature | Lt. Worf, TNG "Rightful Heir" | Fon: *49 6224 1600402