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From: Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi>
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Subject: Re: Mike Terry Proves --- How the requirements that Professor Sipser agreed to are exactly met
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On 2025-05-20 14:42:36 +0000, olcott said:

> On 5/20/2025 2:13 AM, Mikko wrote:
>> On 2025-05-20 04:24:02 +0000, olcott said:
>> 
>>> On 5/19/2025 5:20 AM, Mikko wrote:
>>>> On 2025-05-18 20:19:19 +0000, olcott said:
>>>> 
>>>>> You keep the strawman fallacy.
>>>> 
>>>> A straw man fallacy is a (usually) correct refutation of something.
> 
> The strawman fallacy is stipulated to be incorrect
> that is what the word "fallacy" means.

No, "fallacy" does not mean that. A fallacy is a pattern of thoght that is
found to be incorrect. In case of "straw man fallacy" the incorrecteness
is that the refuted claim is falsely presented as the opponents claim, not
an error in the refutation. For example:

>>> It seems quite stupid to say that an error of reasoning
>>> is correct. You might as well have said all dogs are cows.

Here "an error of reasoning is correct" is presented as self evidently
false, as it indeed is, so no fallacy there. But you are falsely
pretending that I said someting that you correctly contradicted, and
that error means that words constiture a straw man fallacy.

-- 
Mikko