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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!panix!.POSTED.panix3.panix.com!dannyb From: danny burstein <dannyb@panix.com> Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv Subject: Re: [OT] Bell Canada - service vs. abuse Date: Thu, 22 May 2025 22:16:25 -0000 (UTC) Organization: PANIX Public Access Internet and UNIX, NYC Message-ID: <100o7np$ptn$1@reader1.panix.com> References: <100nj4b$3hf47$1@dont-email.me> <100nm6c$3if0t$1@dont-email.me> <100np67$3hf47$2@dont-email.me> <100o227$3l9hv$1@dont-email.me> Injection-Date: Thu, 22 May 2025 22:16:25 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: reader1.panix.com; posting-host="panix3.panix.com:166.84.1.3"; logging-data="26551"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@panix.com" User-Agent: nn/6.7.3 In <100o227$3l9hv$1@dont-email.me> "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> writes: [snip] >Except for businesses with PBXs, we didn't use ISDN for residential. >It's too bad because the sound quality was superior to analog but the >technology was in wider-spread use in Europe and Japan than here. hey, *we* (Panix, where I used to work) had nuerous ISDN residential customers using dial up ISDN, including... me and a bunch of other staff members. I even still have my Motorola Bitsurfer in a box somewhere... We also had extensive discussions with our customers as to the importance of using 56K channels on their ISDN calls 'cuz NY Telephone charged the 64k ones at business, that is, _timed_ rates of an additional one cent/minute. Residential were untimed so just the single 10 cents or so per call.. >You know what we are doing in this country? Telephone repair personnel >have been ordered to leave covers off pedestals. You see this all over >the place. The covers were designed to eliminate water infiltration. But >the network isn't deteriorating quickly enough to make the business case >to the regulators that it must be abandoned, so the telephone companies >are helping things along with self sabotage. It's outrateous. I was wondering why so many pedestals were "open". Yeah, this claim certainly sounds plausible... -- _____________________________________________________ Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key dannyb@panix.com [to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded]