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From: Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.comp.os.windows-11,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: My week with Linux: I'm dumping Windows for Ubuntu to
 see how it goes
Date: Fri, 23 May 2025 17:16:51 -0000 (UTC)
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Marion <marion@facts.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 23 May 2025 06:38:15 -0000 (UTC), Chris wrote :
> 
> 
>>> If you purchase a Pixel or Galaxy or iPhone today, those promised written
>>> support years and numbers of releases are active instantly. It's now.
>> 
>> Correct. The actual benefit only comes in 3 years' time for Pixel/Galaxy
>> owners as earlier models only ever got about 3 years of support. And the
>> new guarantee is not retrospective. Why not? Are one year older models so
>> bad they can't commit to supporting them for more than three years? 
> 
> You're so desperate to lie about Apple's support that it's palpable, Chris.

Everything I've stated is not a lie. You on the other hand.. let's say..
you have a passing acquaintance with reality. 

> Fact is I just got a hotfix update to my Samsung Galaxy A32-5G Chris, which
> was released in early 2021, but the point is that technology moves forward.

It is stuck on Android 13 and lost support three months ago:
https://endoflife.date/samsung-mobile

Whereas the seven year old iphone XS example I gave will run iOS 18 and is
fully supported. 

> If I were to buy a Pixel or Galaxy S series phone today, it would be
> covered for full hotfixes and operating system update for 7 years.

We'll see..

>  
>> iPhone models, however, have had *at least* 5 years support for many years
>> now so iPhone users won't see any difference. Apple only confirmed what
>> everyone was getting, already. 
>> 
>> The Samsung/Galaxy policy is new. 
> 
> You're so desperate to falsely claim Apple support to be superior 

Historically, absolutely. Samsung/Google Pixel owners will have to wait
five years to have a phone that matches the support iphone owners have
experienced for years. 

Do you deny that the seven year old iphone XS is fully fully supported by
Apple and the latest version of iOS? I dare you. 

> 
>>> The most often purchased phones are Samsung, Chris, so that fact matters a
>>> lot given the Galaxy S series competes directly with the iPhone. 
>> 
>> Thanks for confirming that model A Samsungs still get shit support. 
> 
> The A series is six years for full hotfix support, Chris. 
> Which is still more than Apple's (and the A-series is a cheap phone).

That's a new one from you. Evidence?

> Why can't you admit that Apple's support is the worst in the industry?

That's clearly false. How long was Windows Mobile supported?

> You're desperate to claim 5 years is longer than 6 (A series) or 7 (S).

Not true. 

> 
> Why do you think the iPhone is the most exploited smartphone in history?

Again, you keep stating that and provide a link that even you can't show
how it supports your assertion. Basically you're lying. 

>>> That you are unaware of these basic facts is what's so very troublesome
>>> about Apple trolls who think nothing of lying to protect your Apple God.
>>> 
>>>> whereas
>>>> Apple's support is for all phones and in the real world is often 6-7 years
>>>> anyway. 
>>> 
>>> Why do you continually brazenly lie Chris?
>> 
>> This is a fact I have demonstrated on multiple occasions. You seem to
>> prefer a written statement - that anyone could write - over empirical
>> evidence. For example, the iphone XS released in 2018 is still fully
>> supported SEVEN years on. 
>> 
>> Only Apple has many years' worth of evidence that they can fully support
>> ALL their phones for a minimum of five years. 
>> 
>> We'll have to wait to see if google and samsung are able to meet their
>> commitments even if it's only for some models. 
> 
> What you Apple trolls don't understand is there's a huge difference between
> randomly patching an egregious bug in an older release, and patching every
> known bug in the latest release. 

There's lots you don't understand from behind your blinkered view of the
world. No-one's talking about random patches. 

What do you not understand about all iphones from the XS and newer being
fully supported by iOS 18? How is that worse than your A32 being stuck on
Android 13 and given security fixes now and again if google deems it
necessary?