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Path: ...!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: Is Parallel Programming Hard, And, If So, What Can You Do About It? Date: Sat, 24 May 2025 03:17:00 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 23 Message-ID: <100rdnc$gk4l$1@dont-email.me> References: <vvnds6$3gism$1@dont-email.me> <edb59b7854474033c748f0fd668badaa@www.novabbs.org> <w32UP.481123$C51b.217868@fx17.iad> <vvqdas$g9oh$1@dont-email.me> <vvrcs9$msmc$2@dont-email.me> <0ec5d195f4732e6c92da77b7e2fa986d@www.novabbs.org> <vvribg$npn4$1@dont-email.me> <vvs343$ulkk$1@dont-email.me> <vvtt4d$1b8s7$4@dont-email.me> <2025May13.094035@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at> <vvuuua$1mt7m$1@dont-email.me> <vvvons$3uvs3$2@dont-email.me> <100oetb$c5c7$1@paganini.bofh.team> <100p1ef$3uia9$1@dont-email.me> <100p3qr$3undg$1@dont-email.me> <26cdffcc235c3fc38a8b43834e912fac@www.novabbs.org> <100q848$5fc7$2@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sat, 24 May 2025 05:17:01 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="6738d3dcc766298d22d18dc5830f0a7e"; logging-data="544917"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19FMGZNLzuZw5gK3lz4N/kl" User-Agent: Pan/0.162 (Pokrosvk) Cancel-Lock: sha1:G48C5RNfBi66o5AvO0tEKC3Huik= Bytes: 2483 On Fri, 23 May 2025 11:29:03 -0500, BGB wrote: > On 5/23/2025 7:36 AM, MitchAlsup1 wrote: >> >> On Fri, 23 May 2025 6:09:37 +0000, BGB wrote: >> >>> OK, so say I stick a 4K cache between the L1 and L2 caches. >>> Seems kinda useless just based on sizes. >> >> It is called a "victim buffer" >> > I had usually understood it that a "victim buffer" was typically glued > directly to the L1 cache. So let me understand this: the analogous concept to a “victim buffer” in the disk drive case (assuming the analogy makes sense at all), would be something “glued directly” to the OS filesystem cache? That is, it would be on the main RAM side, not on the drive side? In order for the analogy to be truly analogous? Just trying to get things clear here. Because, you know, some people like to muddy the waters to distract from the fact that they don’t actually understand what’s going on.