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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Julio Di Egidio <julio@diegidio.name> Newsgroups: sci.physics.relativity Subject: Re: [ANN] SR/InertialFrames v2.2.1 Date: Sat, 24 May 2025 17:21:54 +0200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Lines: 33 Message-ID: <100so6h$l8lc$1@dont-email.me> References: <100keh4$2a7u2$1@dont-email.me> <mLSdnaogCubAQaz1nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@giganews.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Injection-Date: Sat, 24 May 2025 17:21:53 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="12f28f4486d1b9eedec1bcacb3524e2b"; logging-data="697004"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX190Oa0UVTAUJ3g0gQNf4YUnIaiHTyn4tPg=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:r5wgw0KR3jcj9pQR4cqhK4yE1fc= In-Reply-To: <mLSdnaogCubAQaz1nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@giganews.com> Content-Language: en-GB, it On 24/05/2025 16:48, Ross Finlayson wrote: > On 05/21/2025 04:47 AM, Julio Di Egidio wrote: > A clock hypothesis: is a pretty usual idea, that there > are no closed time-like curves and furthermore that whatever > meets has whatever clocks meet. Einstein called it a, "the time", That's false on all accounts, including the time travel side of things, you still cannot get your head around which, apparently. That said, thanks for asking: The "clock hypothesis", in simple terms, is the principle that all working clocks tick at the same rate (the proper time rate) in their own frame. Drop that and you drop any chance of doing any physics at all: together with the use of light signals, clocks are fundamental to contemporary physics and the very measurement process. It is also equivalently the hypothesis that the local experience of time is universally the same for every particle and every observer: and I do not actually mean anything psychological, rather the rate of getting old, just like the rate of atom decay, is a physics fact. And note that none of that is about inertial frames and motion only: time proper ticks at the same rate every time every place. Indeed, time dilation and length contraction are only relativistic effects, we know that, don't we? "Nothing is actually slowing or shortening aboard that ship", which remains canonical relativity. -Julio