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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Mikko <mikko.levanto@iki.fi> Newsgroups: comp.theory Subject: Re: Position Paper: Why Simulating Halt Deciders (SHDs) Require a Reframing of the Halting Problem Date: Sun, 25 May 2025 11:15:55 +0300 Organization: - Lines: 15 Message-ID: <100ujjr$19e50$1@dont-email.me> References: <binYP.412288$6Qab.7156@fx07.ams4> <100t06c$r01g$2@dont-email.me> <4_nYP.350132$_Npd.325507@fx01.ams4> <100t2ka$ro5e$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 25 May 2025 10:15:56 +0200 (CEST) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="aa1dcc3c73b18a626e48b434fd480c46"; logging-data="1357984"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19kOLDmIs95z1dOAS4/KXU7" User-Agent: Unison/2.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:2E0kmlzDZEY4YOoITGW612vwSLw= On 2025-05-24 18:19:54 +0000, olcott said: > Proving that the rules have always been incoherent nonsense > does seem to refute them. To say anything about refuting any rules is a category error. The word "refute" means to show that a claim is false. Rules are not claims and therefore not false. That you call something "incoherent nonsense" is more likely a consequense of your defective understanding. -- Mikko