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Subject: Re: Bicycle outing with happy ending
Date: Sun, 25 May 2025 08:46:23 -0500
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On 5/24/2025 6:41 PM, John B. wrote:
> On Sat, 24 May 2025 07:47:51 -0500, AMuzi <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
> 
>> On 5/23/2025 9:48 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
>>> On 5/23/2025 7:45 PM, AMuzi wrote:
>>>> On 5/23/2025 2:26 PM, cyclintom wrote:
>>>>> On Wed May 21 16:23:16 2025 Catrike Ryder  wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 21 May 2025 17:10:30 -0300, Shadow <Sh@dow.br>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, 21 May 2025 10:18:50 -0500, AMuzi
>>>>>>> <am@yellowjersey.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Too bad the pervert lived.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://nypost.com/2025/05/20/us-news/hero-dad-
>>>>>>>> rescues-11-year-old- daughter-from-perv-who-dragged-
>>>>>>>> her-into-a-remote-area-of-nyc-park- cops/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> //
>>>>>>> A local parent said he?s wary of the more remote areas
>>>>>>> in the park,
>>>>>>> and that he?s often encountered "crazy people" lurking
>>>>>>> there.
>>>>>>> //
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      Id say.
>>>>>>> //
>>>>>>> (He) snatched her and tried to sexually assault her
>>>>>>> while the pair
>>>>>>> were riding their bikes
>>>>>>> //
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      Almost impossible. Only a crazy person would do
>>>>>>> that. Can you
>>>>>>> imagine how complicated it must be to rape someone
>>>>>>> while riding a
>>>>>>> bicycle?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      Weird. Doesn't Trump's "biggest and bestist
>>>>>>> heathcare EVER"
>>>>>>> cover mental diseases?
>>>>>>>      Next MAGA-hats will be defending the "crazy
>>>>>>> people's" right to
>>>>>>> buy guns. LOL.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      PS Aproximately 1-1.5% of any population is
>>>>>>> psychotic(usually
>>>>>>> schizophrenic). They have NO IDEA they're crazy. Only
>>>>>>> an efficient
>>>>>>> public health system can identify and ensure they get
>>>>>>> adequate free
>>>>>>> treatment. And of course, keep them away from guns.
>>>>>>>      []'s
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It used to be that people like that got put away in
>>>>>> facilities. Then,
>>>>>> in 1963, the jackasses in the government decided that
>>>>>> was wrong, and
>>>>>> turned them all loose. Like you say, many emotionally
>>>>>> disturbed people
>>>>>> have no idea they are emotionally disturbed and are not
>>>>>> going to
>>>>>> voluntarily submit to treatment.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Those facilities were NEVER properly funded and became
>>>>> nothing more than poorly managed prisons.Most of the
>>>>> lunatics on the streets now are severely addicted people
>>>>> that cannot and woulod not be cured of their addiction.
>>>>> Fentanyl will kill them and therw's no way to stop it.
>>>>
>>>> In theory.
>>>> But the numbers are not decreasing by themselves:
>>>>
>>>> https://ktla.com/news/california/a-southern-california-
>>>> mayor-says-he- wants-to-give-homeless-people-all-the-
>>>> fentanyl-they-want/
>>>
>>> Andrew, I remember you arguing in favor of legalizing drugs.
>>> Am I mistaken?
>>>
>>
>> I'm agnostic, and there are serious concerns on every side
>> of that argument.
>>
>> I believe I wrote merely that 100 years of worldwide Heroin
>> ban has cost huge amounts of money, attention, all sorts of
>> resources (human labor not otherwise productive) and ruined
>> lives and yet it's cheaper and more pure than ever and in
>> most neighborhoods can be delivered faster than a pizza.
>>
>> This is not a successful policy.
> 
> For all the recent  talk about thinking and logic the
> 18th and 21st amendment creates and solves the same problem :-)
> 
> --
> cheers,
> 
> John B.
> 

Yes, that's a lesson not well remembered.

The meddling do-gooders of WCTU and their ilk ramped up 
their opposition to Demon Rum all through the late 1800s. 
Not being stupid, they realized that removing the whiskey 
tax  would collapse the Federal government, and so their 
long range plans included the equally horrible 16th 
Amendment as a precursor to the 17th. Sadly, that yet stands.

Still and all, the many and various issues are complex. For 
example, the dramatic relaxation of cannabis regulation and 
enforcement has not served children well.  I do not have a 
simple snappy solution to any of it.

-- 
Andrew Muzi
am@yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971