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Paul.B.Andersen wrote:

> Den 24.05.2025 17:21, skrev Julio Di Egidio:
>> which, apparently.  That said, thanks for asking:
>> And note that none of that is about inertial frames and motion only:
>> time proper ticks at the same rate every time every place.  Indeed,
>> time dilation and length contraction are only relativistic effects, we
>> know that, don't we? "Nothing is actually slowing or shortening aboard
>> that ship", which remains canonical relativity.-Julio
>> 
> Well said! https://paulba.no/pdf/Clock_rate.pdf See 1.1.

you both don't undrestand. In relativity the first order changes, second 
etc, is preserved, but altered one direction. In quantum domain the first 
order IS NOT preserved, and altered stochastic both directions. That's why 
probability distribution are used. 

ds/dt in relativity altered one direction

ds/dt in quantum domain makes no sense, being stochastic for both 
variables.