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From: "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com>
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Subject: Re: John Roberts won't save Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia
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The Horny Goat <lcraver@home.ca> wrote:
>Tue, 8 Apr 2025 04:17:01 -0000 (UTC), BTR1701 <atropos@mac.com> wrote:

>>You do realize the guys they're going after have already had their hearings
>>and just ignored their deportation orders, right? Do we need to give them
>>another hearing about the hearing? And then maybe a third hearing to examine
>>the first and second hearings?

>If the guy already has had the hearing they're entitled to, what's
>left other than execution of the deportation order?

>Perhaps he might be hauled into court to verify that the deportation
>order is valid but at that point he gets cuffs and a one way trip to
>either the airport or to the border right?

>You simply don't have the right to unlimited stays of warrants. I'm
>all for due process but you don't have the right to come up with a new
>excuse ad infinitum.

You've both completely lost the thread. It's deportation into the
custody of the government of a country that they are not nationals of,
that immediately put them into prison per agreement with the Trump
administration. They committed no crimes in that country and they did
not violate its immigration laws.

Why are they in prison in El Salvador? That's kidnapping, international
human trafficking, and unlawful detention. Regardless of being in the
physical custody of another nation, the laws of the United States apply
to any action taken by the Trump administration.

BTR1701 is wrong here. Since the United States government was sending
them into prison in a third country, they were entitled to due process
upon being picked up by ICE and before being sent out of the country.

Only if they were deported to their countries of nationality as free men
upon landing would due process under the United States constitution not
apply.

I'm appalled that BTR1701 wouldn't criticize the Trump administration
for this without regard to his opinion that illegal aliens under a final
order of deportation should be deported with all deliberate speed.