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Path: news.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder3.eternal-september.org!news.iecc.com!.POSTED.news.iecc.com!not-for-mail From: John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> Newsgroups: comp.arch Subject: Re: the power of junk, Is Parallel Programming Hard, And, If So, What Can You Do About It? Date: Sun, 25 May 2025 20:47:41 -0000 (UTC) Organization: Taughannock Networks Message-ID: <100vvld$o1b$1@gal.iecc.com> References: <100e0it$19264$1@dont-email.me> <PxlYP.104935$MKx.20209@fx13.iad> <100t06i$r5si$1@dont-email.me> <slrn1036v4a.2e9bs.lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 25 May 2025 20:47:41 -0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: gal.iecc.com; posting-host="news.iecc.com:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:676f:7373:6970"; logging-data="24619"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@iecc.com" In-Reply-To: <100e0it$19264$1@dont-email.me> <PxlYP.104935$MKx.20209@fx13.iad> <100t06i$r5si$1@dont-email.me> <slrn1036v4a.2e9bs.lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com> Cleverness: some X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test77 (Sep 1, 2010) Originator: johnl@iecc.com (John Levine) According to Lars Poulsen <lars@cleo.beagle-ears.com>: >> Looks up more, apparently Oklahoma also has cheaper natural gas, at >> around $5 per thousand cubic feet, vs $13 (US average). Apparently >> Oklahoma and Texas are among the top producers of natural gas in the US >> (well, besides Pennsylvania; which also makes a lot). >> ... > >I wonder if this is because they are capturing "waste" methane at the >wellhead of fracked oil wells. I know thay used to consider methane >by-product at oil wellheads to be worthless waste, to be flared off >on-site, until EPA started fining them for the practice. More likely it's limited transportation so they can't ship it to more lucrative markets. Prices all over the US are much lower than they are in Europe and Asia because we can ship only limited amounts overseas as CNG or LNG. I expect the same issues apply in the US, people in Boston would pay more but there's no way to get it there. -- Regards, John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies", Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly